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San Diego's Linda Vista is a hardscrabble neighborhood of two-story homes favored by Mexican, Filipino and Vietnamese immigrants. As in other cities, the fugitive task force arrived in unmarked vehicles and agents were dressed like civilians. Mack said agents wore something to identify them as law enforcement, perhaps an agency insignia on a shirt or a bulletproof vest marked POLICE.
On a recent day on the North American Continent in the United Sates of America

Day laborer Fredy Calleja said his uncle was arrested about two weeks ago while watering plants outside his home. An agent asked him about someone suspected of selling drugs in the area. When the uncle said he didn't know the drug dealer, the agent asked if he was in the country illegally and arrested him when he said he was.

Calleja said his uncle was deported but then sneaked across the border in Tijuana, Mexico. He was back in San Diego a little more than a week later.

Since the blitz began, Serafina Morales has been looking for unmarked white or black vehicles whenever she leaves the house.

"We're all scared to go to school," she said. "Many of us are letting our children walk alone."




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CURIOUS ONLOOKERS...THEY GET HAULED AWAY TOO
While criminals were targeted, agents also asked neighbors and curious onlookers about their immigration status and, if they were in the country illegally, they got hauled away for deportation, too.

"We can't just turn our heads away from people we find along the way," said Lauren Mack, an ICE spokeswoman in San Diego.

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CREDIT REPORTS CHECKED
Agents staked out homes to determine when best to come knocking, interviewed apartment managers and checked credit reports and loan applications.

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BUSH: FUGITIVE TASK FORCE TO TRIPLE
Since last fall, the agency has increased its fugitive task forces nationwide from 18 to 38, and plans to expand to 52 teams by the end of the year. The Bush administration has proposed a total of 70 teams.

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kb_chronic

Well i disagree with the task force, im glad there catching them, they need to be deportated, if their caught again, you take on of their testicles, again and you take the other, again, death sentence

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Mamabudz

Why?

Why are you glad they are "catching them"...they aren't rats, they are humans!

What did this person or anyone who over stayed a visitors visa ever do to you personally?

You are falling for propoganda -- and that is a scarey thing.

troublemaker_42

Call it what you will, but I've always been one to believe that every crime involves risks, and if the risk is too high, maybe you should think twice about committing the crime. Illegal immigration is just that....illegal. What gives these people the right to cut in line, and cast themselves ahead of the people who are attempting to immigrate LEGALLY? I have all the respect in the world for immigrants....as long as they are here legally. I have no problems with the deportation of illegal aliens. All they do is make it harder for the people who worked hard to become legal residdents of this country.

Before anyone jumps all over me for this view, keep in mind Mexico is no gem when it comes to immigration issues. They have substantial troops on THEIR southern boarder, in an attempt to keep immigrants from Central America out of Mexico. Mexico is upset that the US has considered imprisoning illegal immigrants, while illegal immigration into Mexico can earn you two years behind bars. Mexico is all for legalizing many illegal aliens already in the US, yet grants citizenship to only a tiny number of illegal aliens there. IF Mexico could live up to the expectations they have for the US, I MIGHT feel differently. However, as it is, I see nothing wrong with deportation of illegal aliens.


So, since when is an idea that runs contrary to what YOU believe suddenly considered propaganda? Just because you disagree with his point of view doesn't mean he's been brainwashed by the media into believing what he does, and if I were in his shoes, I'd be angry you'd assume that was the case.

KWhite

I suppose I hope that America never lives through such hard times that our people start thinking Mexico or Canada, Viet Nam or Somalia is looking good enough to make a try at getting in...

Because your kids are starving, or because the state has not been able to fund schools for 15 years, or because of a huge natural disaster-

I wonder, if it ever did get that bad in America, would those who now protest so vociferously about the current crop of migrants-

Be the first to become the next crop of migrants? Would they offer a testicle to get them in?

Would they remember how uncharitable they are now, when they are seeking charity?

I somehow doubt...

It.

((I can spell, I cannot type....)

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Abomonog

Lets see. We have over 3 million homeless children in America. Most of these living in conditions not all that different from Ethiopia. Average wages in America plummeted from from $45,600 in 2004 to $41,100 in 2005 while the average cost of living rose from $54,000 to $61,000 in the same time span. Some inner cities schools are boasting classes of over 100 students as they just can't afford to pay for teachers. American schools are considered the worst in the industrialized world. Hunger has always been a problem in our slums, but we are starting to see hunger related disease crop up recently. Worse yet, Americas first case of smallpox in 30 years showed up in the NYC getto over the last winter.

Get rid of the illegals and help our own first. I cannot believe that this is even a debate!

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KWhite

We've had those same statistics since I read my first newspaper and probably longer, successive administrations have failed to address it, either they could not or would not.

If every illegal were gone tomorrow, do you truly believe there would be no more homeless, no more hungry babies in America?

I think your argument fails.

As an aisde, that is one of the things Europeans don't like about America, I'm divided on the Social state, but I will tell you with certainty, there are no hungry children in Germany, they made it a Right that each person get enough food.

There are no homeless unless they are that way by choice- It is the basic right of every human in Germany to have a place to live, even if the state has to fund it due to that person's inability, temporary or permanent, all they have to do is go to a government office and claim it.

NO ONE fails to go to a doctor becasue they cannot afford it, if they cannot, no matter what the illness, the state takes the cost.

They consider it a basic human right.

Now, are you CERTAIN that our politicians would really move to eliminate homelessness, poverty, hunger?

Illegals in or not, really really?

Abomonog

No but my pay would be double what it is today, and good paying jobs would be easier because no one would be there to undercut my salary. My argument does not fail. The lack of decent paying job is a very serious problem in America, The children end up homeless most often because their parents can't find paying work. In Va. Illegals are the cause in falling salaries, I'm sure in other states it's the same situation.

That is Germany. In America people are rendered homeless at our governments whim. You have no right to eat. You have no right to live in America, you must obey the laws here or die trying.

No politician will ever address poverty in America. Not so long as below minimum wage workers keep pouring into the country. Because removing the illegal work force would be the first best step in reducing poverty problems in America. In removing the illegals we also remove the profit margin for the fat cats. The illegal issue and the war on drugs all boil down to the same thing. Where the money goes. MJ will never be legalized and the illegals will keep pouring in because if either changes the money starts flowing away from the top of the pyramid down towards the base. Nevada's proposed Ultra-high tax on MJ is proof what I am saying is spot on. It's literally a 100% production tax .

Nevada expects to lose a lot of revenue if legalization happens and the tax is there to make up for that loss.

This is why I have always advocated civil action for the MJ movement instead of using the courts. The courts are too corrupt to allow for legal MJ to happen. I'm watching Nevada, but somehow I don't think it will fly.

KWhite

This is, as far as I can see, opinion based assumption.

I have watched corporate America and Europe take lower wages, rising prices and tax cuts with a grin, keep them and you know- they did not raise the wages, not one cent. They made a larger profit statement at the end of the year, nothing else. Typically, they figure you are already working for that payscale, why change it. Also, if your wages double, so do everyone elses, and there goes the price range of necessities and commodities... It will double too. I fail to see the win in that.

I use Germany as an example because I know both America and this country, the room for thinking is right there, in the differences and the similarities.

What percentage of the population is currently illegal? It would seem that from what, 380 million americans, to ensure your wage would double, 190 million of those would have to be illegals, and they would all have to be deported for the labor market to become spo tight that employers would start screaming for help at any cost.

Do we have a 50 percent illegal rate in America? No assuming just because that backs up your argument, I like facts. Does anyone have a line tohe census bureau?

And as far as politicians go, you are almost correct, no politicician will do those things until we take the responsibilty on our shoulders and vote for politicians for whom those are important issues.

A democratic nation always get the politicians it deserve.

Always.

Kelly

Mamabudz

Kelly --

Is it just my paranoid background ...

Or is this starting sound vaguely familiar...and I don't me to be facist-ic...I mean facetious -- round ing up the usual suspects...

And is it a wonder that these folks didn't want to be caught up in a Census?

so pardon my herr Freudian slip ...

Good to see you in on this conversation...