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Old 04-21-2002, 09:48 PM   #1
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Default Even the gov't still uses people...

for decryption. There are, no question, some very fancy programs currently in use for decyphering and/or decoding the private codes and ciphers of all the world - but every Intelligence processing nation still augments those applications with actual living breathing human beings - because even now, computers don't THINK, they process data based on a strict set of rules.

The problem isn't that no encryption system is sophisticated enough to be impenatrable to gov't decryption - it's that most people aren't willing to a)pay for that level of encryption or b)able to design that level of encryption on their own.

An encryption technique called a 'one time pad' is still nearly unbeatably secure, as long as parties on both the sending and receiving end maintain 100% compliance to the necessary security standards. Comically enough, this is one of the oldest forms of encryption.
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Old 04-22-2002, 12:03 AM   #2
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even if they do have tech. to break encryption they probably will only use it for the bigger fish (whales) out there cause they'd like to keep it a secret for obvious reasons.

so for us small fish encryption should be fine.

4096 bit encryption is extremely tough and expensive to break. so if you're not a very important person it's most likely not even worth their time to try to break it. it is a lot cheaper to simply set up a surveillance van outside your home .

the best free encryption app out there is gnupg. it is open source which means that there aren't any secret gov't keys in it.

you can get it here http://www.gnupg.org/

but every Intelligence processing nation still augments those applications with actual living breathing human beings

I would assume that those humans use computers intensly to try to break a code.
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this is all hardcore BS! i don't want the government on my computer! they have no right to be there unless they have direct cause to suspect that evidence is in there. [even if they search they will find nothing. i have no crimes on my computer.]
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isn't one of the big contraversies about carnivore that they attempted to make encrypting certain things illegal (not that it could be enforced, but whatever)
im probobly completely wrong about this, but i think i heard something like that...
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Cool There are several other issue's...

in this subject besides the government watching our tranmissions
with these things.I personally feel that the forth amendment is going right out the window.Privacy right's violations will be going right out the window now,as we enter the age of the terrorist's wars.
The security camera's in the pizza store is a good example.No crime has ever been committed there,but perhaps the camera's will give a robber a second thought before they try to rob the store.The interesting thing about the camera's is here in Ohio,
(southern),we seem to be having a lot of bank robbery's and
the bank's all have camera's rolling.These guy's just roll in and pull the robbery in very little of a disguise or non at all.The camera's don't seem to be a deterant to a dedicated robber.
Perhap's that wil bwe the way the government's snooping on the internet will work too.The one's who are going to do the crime will do it anyway,regardless of them listening in to their transmissions.
I have to look at it like this though;I am glad that they are busting people off the internet for child pornography.Is it possible that the bust a few year's ago of a couple of sites is causing all the arrest's and allegation's against the priest's?So I see this a good thing.If it stop's this from happening,it is a good thing,in my opinion.
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“Like all technology projects or tools deployed by the FBI, it would be used pursuant to the appropriate legal process.”

So what about the CIA using it? They're the ones to keep an eye on.
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