Old News that John Ashcroft is Evil, but with New Evidence

05-30-2002, 08:48 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...i_reorganizing

Bongzilla · 05-30-2002, 09:00 PM

And just a few days after the Amnesty International report on the US and other 'democractic countries' taking advantage of 9/11 in terms of our rights...

Living in Canada seems better and better everyday.

Shaba Zero · 05-30-2002, 09:25 PM

I remember on 9/11 everyone in my office was sitting in the conference room in various states of tearing, anger, mania, and stunned silence. Ashcroft came on T.V. and I said to somebody, "Who's that?"

"He's our Attorney General."

"Damn. He looks like an evil bastard. I wouldn't want to live next door to him. Look at those lines on his face -- he's used to hurting people, badly. There's not an ounce of compassion left in his cold heart."

"Shut up [Shaba Zero]."

"Ah, okay."

What I found out about him in the following weeks made me like him even less. But I don't think there's a good reason to hate him personally. He's just a figurehead. I doubt he's the real souce of this anti-terrorism hysteria. Blame the scared sheep in congress wrapped up tight in party lines, anthrax-phobias, and big business contributions.

[shrugs]

dmbtex · 05-31-2002, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaba Zero
What I found out about him in the following weeks made me like him even less. But I don't think there's a good reason to hate him personally. He's just a figurehead. I doubt he's the real souce of this anti-terrorism hysteria. Blame the scared sheep in congress wrapped up tight in party lines, anthrax-phobias, and big business contributions.
[shrugs]

The problem is that Congress won't stand up to Ashcroft or the rest of the administration because they're so popular right now.

Niteshift · 05-31-2002, 06:37 AM

Did anyone notice that prior to this, the US was didn't have domestic spying, but many other countries like the UK, France etc. did and still do?

05-31-2002, 06:53 AM

Yeah, and that scares me. I couldn't imagine living in the UK where they have security cameras EVERYWHERE. I definately don't want to see our country go down the same road that they have. I can easily see these new rules being used to spy on "domestic terrorist threats" like Martin Luther King Jr. was back in the 60s. I'm sure you are knowledgable about Hoover's tactics in the FBI, and I see this move by Ashcroft as regressive, as are most of his actions.

Niteshift · 05-31-2002, 06:58 AM

I'm not talking about cameras.......I mean agencies that have domestic spying as their top priority.

05-31-2002, 07:00 AM

Regardless to what you were referring, I recognize that the US has had a far better track record regarding privacy issues than much of Europe. Nonetheless, it still troubles me that we are taking steps backwards.

Niteshift · 05-31-2002, 07:11 AM

Ironic isn't it? Us becoming like many European countries is being called a step backwards, while at the same time, our drug policy is considered behind theirs.

HappyMan · 05-31-2002, 04:25 PM

Privacy is worthless if you are worried that the next man stepping on the bus has explosives strapped to him.

05-30-2002, 08:48 PM	#1
deadhed Posts: n/a Grams: 0 [Check] Stock Portfolio Total Value: Gain/Loss: %	Old News that John Ashcroft is Evil, but with New Evidence http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...i_reorganizing

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Shaba Zero Jr. Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 665 Grams: 2262.6 [Check] Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I remember on 9/11 everyone in my office was sitting in the conference room in various states of tearing, anger, mania, and stunned silence. Ashcroft came on T.V. and I said to somebody, "Who's that?" "He's our Attorney General." "Damn. He looks like an evil bastard. I wouldn't want to live next door to him. Look at those lines on his face -- he's used to hurting people, badly. There's not an ounce of compassion left in his cold heart." "Shut up [Shaba Zero]." "Ah, okay." What I found out about him in the following weeks made me like him even less. But I don't think there's a good reason to hate him personally. He's just a figurehead. I doubt he's the real souce of this anti-terrorism hysteria. Blame the scared sheep in congress wrapped up tight in party lines, anthrax-phobias, and big business contributions. [shrugs] __________________ "My ignorance pains me."

05-31-2002, 06:37 AM	#5
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05-31-2002, 06:53 AM	#6
deadhed Posts: n/a Grams: [Check] Stock Portfolio Total Value: Gain/Loss: %	Niteshift: Yeah, and that scares me. I couldn't imagine living in the UK where they have security cameras EVERYWHERE. I definately don't want to see our country go down the same road that they have. I can easily see these new rules being used to spy on "domestic terrorist threats" like Martin Luther King Jr. was back in the 60s. I'm sure you are knowledgable about Hoover's tactics in the FBI, and I see this move by Ashcroft as regressive, as are most of his actions.

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