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GrowFun21

If we take Saddam out, we will like the other guy better because we would control who gets put into power. This happens all over South America with the "School of Americas" located in Ft. Bennings Georgia(run a search if you wanna know the brutality your tax dollars pay for). We are gonna attempt to take saddam out and put someone who will kiss our ass into power. We've done it a million times before.....also, you speak of Saddam being a former friend...so was Osama......we are all gonna f*** ourselves over if we dont fix our own turf 1st. There are schools without textbooks and kids arent learning anything because there just isnt enough money....REALLY??.....when is the last time the armed forces had to hold a bake sale so they could build another multimillion dollar plane.......we need to get some priories straight....

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Niteshift

"and as for me asking the opinion of the 'pot smoking public', perhaps you forgot you were on marijuana.com??"

No, it's right at the top of the page in case I forget.

What you forgot is that there are people on this forum that don't smoke pot.

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goldberry

GrowFun21,

That is probably the most dangerous thing we could attempt to do, to remove the current government and try to install a new 'puppet' one.

We tried to do it in Iran when the Iranian public tried to oust the Shah and we reinstated him because he was our ally. Eventually the inevitable happened, and he was ousted. Look at our relations with Iran now. I would say that it was a very bad idea. Instead of having to deal with Mossadeq we're now left to deal with extremists that hate us for trying to keep an ally in power who oppressed his people.

more about that here

Going back to point c) I made. How would other governments (not just in the region, but the whole world) react if we did that? Are we going to start yanking world leaders we don't agree with and install ones we like? Isn't it up to the Iraqi people to decide what type of government they want and who should lead it?

Also, what makes you think the Iraqi people would ever accept a 'pro US' leader? Don't forget that most Iraqis blame the United States for economic sanctions, which have mostly punished the common people - not their dictatorial gov't. Furthermore, don't forget that we went to war with Iraq and then bombed them a few years after that, too. I doubt that the Iraqi people are fond of the US or any potential pro-US leader.

Just my 2 cents.

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GrowFun21

I agree with what you just said, I was simply stating that if we remove Saddam that is what will happen. We will make sure whoeveer takes power will kiss our ass, I never said it was right or that the people would agree with it. This is the kind of BS we always pull.....we make it look like we are doing the people a favor, but in realty we are always lookin after # 1. Pt. in case is the whole muslim thing going on now and how we cry about the oppression of women over there. That oppression has been going on forever, yet we are using it as fue for the fire now. It never bothered our government before. My stance is that we need to deal with our own problems more instead of sticking our nose in other peoples business. Like i said, we dont have enough money for education, yet we use the osama ordeal as an excuse to stockpile more weapons that we dont need and waste billons more dollars.....we pull a lot of BS that the people dont know about, which is why I stated the School of Americas. Im with you on all this, i was just saying what was gonna happen, not what should happen.....

HappyMan

I think many people here on marijuana.com need to invest more time in reading about history. Much of the opinions expressed here concerning international events show a profound ignorance. Of course the excuse is many that members are youth. If anything is true, it is that youth thinks they know everything, even about topics they have never read about.

How many people here, who have commented on the history of Iraq have read more then two books on the subject? Anyone? How many people here have read two or more books specifically about the Iran/Iraq war? If none or only one, where are these opinions coming from? Are they constructed on half understood snippets gleamed from popular culture, friends or are they hallucinated? Without referencing anyone in particular, much of what is posted here about world history, the military, economics, government and politics is just plain wrong.

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goldberry

Why don't you kindly point out the wrong information?

Not only would you enlighten the misinformed posters, but you would also prevent 'plain wrong' information from spreading.

Just a suggestion.

Daniel

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Let's not get into specifics about other posts/topics and who's facts are wrong. This will just set it up for this thread to be closed.


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HappyMan

It is not a matter of things being wrong factual and it is not specific to this thread. It is a matter of generally poor analysis, an inability to understand the world in a broad geopolitical context.

GrowFun21

i may be a youth, but much of my opinions come form the courses I have just taken in college that deal with world economics and oppression. I was speaking in very general terms, so if you would like to address something I stated feel free. Much of what people "know" is what they read in the paper or hear on the news, which is usually 75% bull****. To me, they are only 2 tools used by the government to get the people to believe whatever they want. Anyways, I have not read any particualr books on the Iraq situation, I have read books that discuss it......such as Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn, along with other College texts......if you disagree wtih me and care to enlighten the "youth" on something, feel free, im all ears to anothers opinion.....jsut do me justice and let me know where you got your info from so I can treat it as more than just an opinion.....im always open to learning some new stuff.....

wakDbuds

well shifty i will apologise to everyone for the first post, with the benefit of hindsight i can see just how badly i tried to state my point (well, i hadnt smoked for a few days and was on a short fuse )
but do you really need to keep goin on about the other statement about pot smokers?? i was just trying to use a bit of alliteration to snazz up my post a bit. of course everyones opinion is welcome...whether you smoke or not

i would really like to hear the opinions of the 'pro US' (for lack of a better word) people here. like what they think should be done about the situation, and what they could infer to be bush's most likely course of action.