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wakDbuds

hmm just saw on the news that bush has given the green light for covert ops to start in iraq. ****, i must have missed bushes coronation as the second incarnation of christ. looks like the gulf war is back, round 2, ding ding.

i hope hussein launches an anthrax loaded missile right up bushes fat ass. but with my personal views aside, i would like to know what the pot smoking american people think about it. i think bush has gone too far.

 

HappyMan

The U.S. has been in a low level war with Iraq since the Gulf War cease fire. This isn't new and should not surprise anyone. Saddam and his political party are a threat and need be removed from power. They pose a real risk to stability in the Middle East and have proven this time and again.
1The reasons for Saddam's removal are long and clear. Under his leadership Iraq has engaged in two wars of conquest, Invading Kuwait and Iran. Iraq has used chemical weapons against her own people. Launched missiles during the gulf war at the uninvolved Israel. Directly and openly supports suicide bomber and last but not least, Iraq is desperately trying to deploy nuclear weapons.
Saddam as the leader of Iraq needs to be removed and preferably killed. He is a despot of the highest order. Killing his way into power and holding on through violence and aggression.

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krunkpuppy

All opinions of Bush aside Sadam is a danger to every nation and should be removed. The only fault in the decision to remove Sadam is procrastination. We should have done it a long time ago.

Niteshift

"i hope hussein launches an anthrax loaded missile right up bushes fat ass"

On second thought, I won't comment on that........... there is nothing I could say that would make that comment stand out as any more outrageous than it does on it's own.

"i would like to know what the pot smoking american people think about it. "

Why? Because non-pot smokers opinions don't matter?

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GrowFun21

Not only was that an aburd comment Wakdbuds, you just made yourself look like an a**. Because there is fighting you dont agree with, you wish biological war upon someone? Makes a lot of sense. I am a US citizen and I know the US government has gone to far on many occasion, but be carfeul what you wish for. From what the mass medai has told us about Saddam (which only god knows if it is true), your "wish" makenot be all that far off. And watch what you say, I knw a few folks who spoke their opinion on other messag boards and actually had the cops at their door, even though they were just blowing off steam.....

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IndoorGanja

1The reasons for Saddam's removal are long and clear. Under his leadership Iraq has engaged in two wars of conquest, Invading Kuwait and Iran. Iraq has used chemical weapons against her own people. Launched missiles during the gulf war at the uninvolved Israel. Directly and openly supports suicide bomber and last but not least, Iraq is desperately trying to deploy nuclear weapons.
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The reasons for his removal are not clear at all! One of Iraq's 2 wars of conquest were backed by the US. As Iraqi chemical weapons rained on Iran, the US continued to supply the Iraqi government with arms. Therefore it is safe to assume that the US did not have a problem with the Iraqi's fighting the Iranians. BUT, the the good ole United States (and I am American too!) took a slap in the face when Sadam invaded Kuwait. never mess with US oil. It is like America's blood. So the US decided to take the oppurtunity to crush a rising Middle Easter power which could have threatend the American imposed status quo in the region. Unlike other Arab countries, iraq invested its oil money very wisely. Think of Iraq as Middle Eastern China. It had the potential to become a world player....But this is what happend.

The US saw a threat in iits world order, created a crisis, and crushed the Iraqi military. After the Gulf War sanctions were imposed which only fueled hatred of Amerca in the Iraqi soul. Mothers having to see their children die of illnesses which could easily be cured by wstern medicine had to face the reality America hated Iraq enough to let this kind of human tragedy occur. The sanctions were eased, but it has not decreased the number dead from this.

Now..as for Israel...it is very involved. When Israeli's are commiting their highly skilled armed forces towards ethnic cleansing, then it is the right of the Iraqi military to defend its unarmed Arab brothers. If Israel wants to survive, maybe it should respect the culture and identity of its surrounding neighbors.

As for the Kurds which Saddam attacked. Turkey has done much worse in its slaughter of the Kurds. Tens of thousands Kurds have died at Turksih hands using arms made in the USA. The US attacked Serbia because it alleged that the was ethnic cleansing occuring in Kosovo. The number dead their did not even beging to rival the number of dead Kurds at the hands of the Turks or the Iraqi's. So the "Iraq attacks its own people" is not a valid argument unless the US decides to uniformize its foreign policy so that the government does not associate with mass murderes in any way. As long as the US supports Israel and Turkey's barbarism, then it should not complain about Iraq's behavior either.

As for Nukes against America....well, this is where the header comes in. If Iraq does indeed attack America using Weapons of Mass Destruction, then the American people have nobody to blame except for the Israeli Lobby in Washington which has been pushing the government to an Israeli interpretation of what American foreign policy in the Middle East should be. I am proud to be an American (while a French national as well)and I hope to Jesus that this does not happen.

As for wakDbuds....I think that you really should not hope destruction of any people just because of their governemnt. Bush is just a part in a long causal chain in an idiotic American foreign policy.

GrowFun21

If we were to destroy people based on the stupid actions of their government, I do not think we would have any more people.....(with established governments, that is)

wakDbuds

i think you guys misinterpreted my post a bit. by saying i hope bush cops a missile in the ass i mean just that.... BUSH not innocent people. it was obviously not a literal statement as loading a nuke with anthrax would serve no function at all. just expressing my disgust at bush's mad cowboy style of running america. i dont wish any harm on the american people, they are just too important globally. its a shame that they have been hijacked and misled by powermongering despots

and as for me asking the opinion of the 'pot smoking public', perhaps you forgot you were on marijuana.com??

GrowFun21

Your just got an answer......the pot smoking public answered your question as it was asked, not how you meant it.......and yea, bush can go to hell along with half the other idiots in the government here.......but im not firing any missiles......They are pretty much trying to do away with democracy with all there fast track legislation....seems funny how they can do pretty much whatever they want if they think we are terrorists......I am so glad im not from middle eastern heritage, I feel for you guys

goldberry

I just don't like the fact that we used to support him. It's almost like we're trying to destroy a monster we helped create.

It's ironic because it appears that Iran and the US have many common enemies. Iran actually almost went to war against the Taliban a couple of times before 9/11 for various reasons (one I remember was for the slaying of its diplomats in afghanistan), and it has supported the 'old' Afghan gov't militarly and financially for quite some time. Iran also went to war with Saddam for 8 years. At that time Saddam and the US were on fairly good terms, and Iraq was getting a lot of its military equipment from the US.

Lets consider what the objectives of this mission are: To provide more stability in the middle east by removing Hussein from power. IMO this is a very dangerous thing to attempt to do for several reasons

a) Who will succeed Saddam and how do we know that he won't be worse than him?

b) Presence of the US military in the region may lead to further destabilization.

c) Other ruling governments may feel threatened by the US and view it as interfering in a sovereign nation's affairs. They may feel that they could be next in line.

what I'm saying is that removing Saddam may actually destabilize the region more than it is right now w/ him in power.

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