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DoritosMan

I'm also working on that, but one big problem is the IMF (International Monetary Fund or something like that) and the BIRD. They keep imposing rules and more rules to take latin america countries out of the mud, i been to ralies, peaceful demostrations that turned into riots all kinds of stuff. All this would be over if they just forget the debtit that pretty much every 3rd world country has. US has the largest debtit of all. US is a major problem in the contanporary world, the whole thing is too complex. There is ALCA, UN, EU, the war on terrorism, urban violence, poverty...etc

might as well close this thread...its way offtopic

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mylobean

DM:

European colonialism shaped the face of the contemporary world, so it just cannot be ignored.

And what's wrong with the IMF wanting legitimate reforms from countries before shelling out more money to them?

I do agree with you that the thread should be closed though. You're at least correct on one issue.

wakDbuds

so then the bombing of the US COLE wouldnt be a terrorist act either? yet everyone seems to say it is.
What about Israeli assassinations, would that make their government terrorists? according to this no, as they are representative of a nation. yet i still think asassination is a terrorist tactic. thanks for the link... i still think theres way too many grey areas in the definition. And the news can probably label anyone who acts against the US a terrorist and get bush's blessing.

wakDbuds

look at this neat little quote from that article...(sorry to digress)



Is terrorism a new phenomenon?
No. The oldest terrorists were holy warriors who killed civilians. For instance, in first-century Palestine, Jewish Zealots would publicly slit the throats of Romans and their collaborators; in seventh-century India, the Thuggee cult would ritually strangle passersby as sacrifices to the Hindu deity Kali; and in the eleventh-century Middle East, the Shiite sect known as the Assassins
would eat hashish before murdering civilian foes.

they just HAD to mention that didnt they. i bet if they got drunk then killed people it wouldnt even get a mention.

DoritosMan

I know this, but i cant change what the spanish did with the aztecs in mexico or what the portuguese did with the indians in Brazil. What i can do is try to improve the world now and try to leave Earth a little better than when i was around.

Argentina is in deepsh!t because IMF is making these rules that would enslave argentina for the next 200 years, why not just give them the money?! It sound cray to give out money doesnt it?! Well why not just stop charging the billions argentina owns, which is why argentina is in deepsh!t. What does the IFM gain with people dieing of starvation everyday. Did you know that argentina has more 50% of the population under the misery line, thats making less than one dollar a day. People are trading food for work cause they cant pay, the gov't has locked the banks so people wont take the money from it. I worry cause my country could be next, my life has improved a lot in the last 8 years, i dont want to go back to the days when the price tags had to be changed twice daily, the inflation was over 900% year, can you imagine that?!

You say what you say because you live in a wealthy and stable country and you dont have worry about these things, i do. I dont want to blame US for the people that dig thru the trash in front of my house everyday, but if IFM wants to put an end to this they could.

just a rant and my final post

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dmbtex

DM- I tend to agree with you on a lot of things, and I agree with pretty much everything you've said in this thread.
The IMF is a nasty organization. Teamed up with the World Bank with support from the WTO and other globalizationist organizations, they are doing to many countries what America did to Cuba and others.
Before the Communist Revolution in Cuba, Americans, with encouragement from the government, were buying up massive plots of land there and growing nothing but sugar. Pretty soon, the Cuban economy was dependant on the sugar industry. Predictably, when the sugar market flopped, Cuba did too. The IMF does similar things. They loan money to struggling countries and then ask for insane interest rates. The rest is pretty complicated, but nasty nonetheless.

Peace.

davanita

Bush is only using this war to bolster the economy.
I believe that the Enron scandal was just a way to bring the NYSE to a low so it bring investors confidence that the market has hit the bottom so that they will invest...but it didn't hit as low as anticpated. I think this where the WorldCom scandal comes in...but the market didn't hit bottom either... what's next? I think a financial instution will fall (or be forced to fall).

Be concerned with the world around you, but don't let it consume you. I know it is hard in this a time of uncertainty..but hang in there.

dmbtex

I'm going to have to disagree with you. There is no evidense of any sort of conspiracy involving Enron and WorldCom to CRASH the market. When the market hits the bottom, it doesn't just bounce back to hights it has never seen. It takes time. The Great Depression is not something we want to see again. We do have safeguards against something that catastrophic happening.

HappyMan

Go and read a little about American History, it has not always been all that wonderful up here. Developing economies have problems. South American economies are developing and doing so very quickly. You can not expect a country to suddenly evolve a mature economic system.


As for povety. Why don't you come vistit me for a week. I'll take a week off from work and I'll show you around. I'll show you both Rural and Urban povety here in the U.S.

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davanita

"The governement is sick and wants powerful remedies."
~Alexander Hamilton


Did I say I want another Depression? Noway.
Face the facts the feds have more power than we are aware of.
I do not feel comfortable and safe in this country, we are being lied to everyday. What makes you think that they do not have the power? The economy would not bounce back to some awesome level but, more investors would feel comfortable putting their funds into a market that has already bottomed out.
This is America, people are not concerned with the state of the union...only their bank staement.