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Old 09-28-2002, 03:45 PM   #1
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Default Bush, Politics & Communism

almost every1 on marijuana.com seems really against president bush in general. im personally in favor of fairly capitalistic, right-leaning political situations, but i do realize that bush's single mindness makes the decrim/legalization of marijuana a virtual impossibility. but, on the other hand, the chance of marijuana ever being decrim/leaglized in the usa is very low, republican or democrat alike. with the exception of sometihng like the marijuana party or the green party or something, i dont think theres much chance of anything ever being done along the line of making marijuana less illegal in the usa in the near future. the ratio of people who use marijuana responisbly as adults and people who have never tried it and dont plan to and stick iwth the 'drugs are bad' ideology is simply too high in our country.

im nt sure at all, im just wondering, maybe every1 could state of what political mindset they are. persnally, ive just always been against communism for the simple fact that it has caused the deaths of millions of people in history and just seems generally wrong. u might say the same of fascism, but thats not what im advocating, im advocating capitalism's general benefit in creating a scoiety of people who are for the most part, existing in a 1st world state where they dont have to be deprived of the things they generally need to survive.

communism also seems just blatantly unworkable - to quote, communism is only workable in heaven, where they dont need it, and in hell, where theyve got it. basically, the only way u can have communism work along the principles of a 'classless' society is to make everyone low-class. communism can work that way, but the only way to make it work is to rid communstic policy of the horrible dictators of the past like stalin who lost sight of all ideals of communism in favor of idolizing himself by making a wall of 40 million russians to block out the german invaders. personally, ive been a fan of ayn rand my whole life, and have found myself enjoying works by robert heinlen, george orwell and the like. novels by such authors as james blish and the 'orater' series are also quite enjoyable.

i guess this was just a post of curiosity, i smoked A-bomb last night and wasnt able to sleep, and am now in a state of semi-deep thinking. just wondering what every1s opinions are on communism, capitalism, republican politics, marijuana, and spiritual ethics and ideas in general. being the child of adults who were very much involved in the hippy movement, ive learned alot from my parents etc, but being very young, my ideas might not hold alot of real ground as i havnt experinced many of the tihngs other people on marijuana.com might have. im just interested in what every1s opinions are on these things. being a canadian myself, most of what ive exper3einced politics-wise is completely socialist political partie like the liberals and new democrats who have passed up the opportunity to make canada as fiscally, economically and industrially up to par as it could be with other 1st world nations.

but please leave your opinions yall im quite interested to learn what every1 thinks as this is a contemporary thought forum.
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Old 09-28-2002, 04:42 PM   #2
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i have never found any party that close enough resembles my thinking to have me call myself one of them
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Old 09-28-2002, 05:38 PM   #3
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yeah thats true but capitalism, atheism and egoism represent what i believe in more so that communism, christianity and conformism.
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Old 09-28-2002, 06:44 PM   #4
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UGH! Pollux, I seriously hope you are an athiest/agnostic or else you are a serious hippocrite. Communism wasent created to bring down your stupid capitalist government. It was an idea that has been abused by oppressive dictators. If you actually read the Manifesto, you will find out that it doesnt say "Take over the world and rule with a iron fist and crush capitalism" Communism has been given a black eye by capitalist propaganda that sees the movement as a threat to their big businesses and by the abuses of the idea by Stalin, Mao, and other oppressive leaders. People blindly follow the belief that it is evil, red is bad, blah blah blah. They are all sheep listening to big business that forsaw communism crushing their fascist rule over workers. Anti-Communist feelings were drummed up by business men and corporations that feared unions and communists because their money bags wouldnt be as full as before. Capitalism promotes rightwinged thinking and big business, both which mean less for the people and more for the disgustingly rich. Three of the richest billionaires in the world control more money than forth eight of the poorest countries in the world.
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Old 09-28-2002, 07:38 PM   #5
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^ What he said. People make politics too compicated. Try looking at it this way:

Right wing: Money for the rich, bags of **** for the poor.

Left wing: An even spread of wealth; no rich, no poor.
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Old 09-28-2002, 10:54 PM   #6
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Communism is dead; A discredited and failed economic theory.
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Old 09-28-2002, 11:57 PM   #7
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communism would be better in cuba if there was no embargo and no dictator. castro wants you to think there are no society classes in cuba, but there are. the rich people are workers for the governemnt and tourists. i have visited family there and like 80% to 90% of the people are poor because the governemnt takes everything. if there was no dictator and no embargo, more revenue would come in and would be able to help the people. no money is spent to rebuild and fix the cities, its all taken by the greedy leaders in the country. of course this is just a fantasy because only god or jesus could rule a communist country. any average human would eventually become corrupt and greedy.
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Yeah, but luckily capitalism is still around to make the poor poorer and the rich richer eh?

Communism failed because we are failures. We were given a brilliant system of government, but human nature corrupted it. Everyone strives to be on top, everyone want more power and more money. I seriously doubt more than a handful of people have ever existed that could have properly run a communist government.
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Old 09-29-2002, 01:02 AM   #9
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You’re making very broad, general and clichéd statements about human nature and governance. Also. communism is not a system of governance, it is an economic system.
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Ok "communist system" if you want to argue about words, Im sure it threw you off when I wrote government. Meh, so I generalized my reply, cry me a freakin river. Lets argue about the topic on hand instead of my writing habits.
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