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More evidence of the upcoming Police State...

The Denver Post - Alcohol surveys spur complaints
WorldNetDaily: Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva

 

Lit_Match

I think "upcoming police state" is a bit of a stretch.

Those roadside test had nothing to do with the government, it was done by a private organization that was being assisted by the police.

The only thing I see wrong here is that drivers who said no were pressured for apparently a long time to comply. They complained, the sheriffs department agreed, and the workers doing the pressuring will probably be dealt with.

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Murdock

Which gave color of authority to the private firm doing the test. Resisting a lawful order by law enforcement officer can get one into a whole heap of trouble. It is police state tactics. Police have no business running a checkpoint/detaining people for a private firm whatsoever. Beyond just the private firm, the fact they were going after DNA is even more chilling.

Which they had no lawful reason to pressure or detain them. Law enforcement knew what was happening and yet did not interviene.. they are just as guilty.

For the life of me I cannot understand why the firm wouldn't simply put an ad in a paper soliciting people for a DNA samples. Why they would go to the trouble of involving law enforcement setting up checkpoints in the middle of the night?

Lit_Match

I see what you mean. I agree 100% that the situation was handled poorly and the surveyors should be held accountable.

If I was one of the drivers however, as soon as one of those college kids started getting pushy I'd have drove away, assuming I waited around in the first place.

The sheriffs department could use some serious refreshing in current policy. I'm not too sure how legal it is to set up a roadblock for a private organization on public land. I could see them being there for roadside safety, but somebody should answer if they acted beyond their authority.

troublemaker_42

I think this incident is absurd. The Sheriff's Office shouldn't be in the business of helping private researchers by assissting in these checkpoints, whether or not the results were shared with the police. There mere presence of officer's on the scene makes it seem "official" and if I asked to leave and was pressured to stay and submit to the tests, I'd feel as if I were "detained". All in all, I find it extremely disturbing any state would allow such a checkpoint to occur, regardless of any "research" going on. If they didn't break any laws, I believe someone should be writing legislation as we speak to keep such incidnets from happening again. If they Sheriff's Office and the research group's behavior wasn't illegal, it should be

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Hashishi

Indeed. A good place to start would be to define genetic liberty and genetic property. Not sure about everybody else, but if DNA samples were ever taken from me I`d fight my hardest to ensure their subsequent destruction.

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Noeone

If you ask me any data derived from this test would be invalid. Driving under the influence is a social taboo these days, people get yelled at, and even spit at for doing it. It seems to me that people who were under the influence would be much more likely to opt out even if it causes a major convince, but that's just my belief.

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