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Old 04-15-2008, 11:43 PM   #1
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make it illegal?
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France targets anorexia in media
Ms Bachelot said promoting anorexia was not freedom of expression

The French National Assembly has passed a groundbreaking bill which seeks to criminalise the promotion in the media of extreme thinness.
The bill targets pro-anorexia websites and publications that encourage girls and young women to starve themselves.
It will affect websites, fashion houses, magazines and advertisers.
If approved by France's upper house, those found to have encouraged severe weight loss could be fined up to 45,000 euros and face three years in prison.
French Health Minister Roselyne Bachelot said the proposed law would help stop advice on how to become ultra-thin being spread through pro-anorexia sites on the internet.
"Encouraging young girls to lie to their doctors, advising them on foods that are easier to regurgitate and inciting them to beat themselves up each time they eat is not freedom of expression," Ms Bachelot told the assembly.
'Death messages'
"These messages are death messages. Our country must be able to prosecute those who are hiding behind these websites," she said.
Jacques Domergue, a lawmaker supporting the bill, said that the intention was to send a strong message to society.
"It is necessary because we know now that we have a risk to some part of the population, young girls, who are pressed by different types of lobbies and the risk is increasing."
The law could also affect the fashion industry and magazine editors who publish photographs of extremely thin models.
If the bill is passed by France's upper house, the Senate, in the coming weeks offenders could face jail sentences of up to two years and 30,000 euros ($47,387; £23,980) in fines.
A three-year term and 45,000 euros in fines could be sought against offenders if the incitement was found to have lead to death.
The BBC's Emma Jane Kirby in Paris says that with 40,000 anorexics in France, many parliamentarians feel the law cannot come soon enough.

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Old 04-15-2008, 11:56 PM   #2
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What ever happened to thinking for yourself?

Oh yeah, it went away with 'subtetly and honesty'.

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"Encouraging young girls to lie to their doctors, advising them on foods that are easier to regurgitate and inciting them to beat themselves up each time they eat is not freedom of expression," Ms Bachelot told the assembly.
"I encourage you to shoot yourself in the face" Isn't that freedom of expression?

Don't you have freedom of thought? I mean, this seems like as simple as logic gets. I understand the massive pressures from the media and society to be extremely thin, but I would think that a woman would somehow realize what she is doing isn't right somehow. I don't know, maybe they just don't care -- in that case, it's their life.

How about seriously educating your citizens on the dangers of extreme thinness/anorexia/bulimia/related disorders instead of trying to make it illegal. That seems a lot more reasonable...
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Cut and paste Spiral's reply directly into this one.

Everyone's seriously gone "ban-crazy" with everything. If some people don't like something, ban it. End of story. How about some education and reasoning?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:05 PM   #4
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How about seriously educating your citizens on the dangers of extreme thinness/anorexia/bulimia/related disorders instead of trying to make it illegal. That seems a lot more reasonable...
I agree...
However, the majority of citizens don't want to be educated.

Sad but true.
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What's next? Outlawing obesity? Maybe they'll outlaw cancer as well.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:11 PM   #6
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What's next? Outlawing obesity? Maybe they'll outlaw cancer as well.
They can't outlaw cancer because they back big tobacco.

It's all about our personal rights. It seems like more and more of our personal rights are being taken away, or questioned. Questioning the right to bear arms even. It's insane. Making a plant like marijuana illegal is just another example.
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They can't outlaw cancer because they back big tobacco.

It's all about our personal rights. It seems like more and more of our personal rights are being taken away, or questioned. Questioning the right to bear arms even. It's insane. Making a plant like marijuana illegal is just another example.
If they want to outlaw a plant, I nominate poison ivy.
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Personally, I think that banning it is ridiculous, but I do think there needs to be some serious education done about women's issues like anorexia and domestic abuse. If they dedicated about half of the anti-drug commercials the U.S. makes to be anti-anorexia, it would make a big difference.

During the Enlightenment, this was the ideal woman's figure:



Now it's this:



Hopefully I am not the only one who thinks this is trend is completely insane. Whatever happened to the *BOOBS*, people??????
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Are you sure you aren't exaggerating just a bit? I'd take the top one over the bottom any day of the week. The bottom one looks creepy, unhealthy, skeletal... the first thing I would feel when I saw her figure is repulsion. I'd probably still rather make love to her than someone from the opposite end of the spectrum, but I still think that women exaggerate how guys expect them to look ridiculously skinny. I guess it's hard to blame them, but I personally think more guys would prefer boobs and curves.
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Are you sure you aren't exaggerating just a bit? I'd take the top one over the bottom any day of the week. The bottom one looks creepy, unhealthy, skeletal... the first thing I would feel when I saw her figure is repulsion. I'd probably still rather make love to her than someone from the opposite end of the spectrum, but I still think that women exaggerate how guys expect them to look ridiculously skinny. I guess it's hard to blame them, but I personally think more guys would prefer boobs and curves.
I get your point, but I was more talking about the ideal woman's figure as displayed in the media. You might think the bottom one looks creepy, unhealthy, and skeletal, but she represents a model's ideal figure in the industry today.

But I'm glad more guys like boobs than not, since my girls are definitely bigger than industry standards.
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