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06-10-2008, 10:47 PM
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|  Religion and Government "If a human lives for four score years and the state is forever, then the state should be able to do whatever is neccesary for the so-called greater good. But, if it's the soul that is immortal, as that old Oxford don C.S. Lewis used to say, then it's the state that is passing away. Which means individual rights are paramount. The whole point of 'one nation under God' in the American Pledge Of Allegiance is recognition that the government isn't God. Individual rights are the basis for the foundation of the United States, and much of this philosophy came from American preachers like Thomas Hooker, who argued for the 'priesthood of believers', insisting that since the Holy Spirit resided in the heart of every person, each person should be able to vote and live their conscience. In short, we're the government. You and me and all the people." Thomas Greanias Does a subject get any better? Government and religion........ Some Where In Ded Land................ 
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06-10-2008, 11:27 PM
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06-11-2008, 12:10 AM
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| I knew I'd hook the sailor of the sea's. Thanks sterb......  The reason I posted this was because I am trying to study some of the early thoughts of the founders of our country. I thought it was an interesting concept, that god was of god and man of man, so the rights of the individual must come first........ I can agree I think..... Some Where In Ded Land............... |
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06-11-2008, 12:25 AM
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| I don't think the government mixes well with religion. 
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06-11-2008, 12:51 AM
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06-11-2008, 05:04 AM
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06-11-2008, 12:32 PM
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| Government and religion shouldn't be mixed, but it's not like the government can ignore it. Frankly, even though I am not a christain, I have no problem conceding the fact that this is a "christain nation." Because the government has never told me that I need to start going to church or anything like that. It leaves it up to me. But that was a really interesting slant on the issue, ded. I've never heard it before. I've heard all my life that "God" is in our pledge because we were trying to separate us from the Russians. Quote:
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06-11-2008, 12:50 PM
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| It's a long held belief that our laws and government are made to adhere to religious principles. I question whether that is really the way we should go......  Good morning Jake........ Some Where In Ded Land........... |
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