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I resemble that religion, sans the scam part, or the contribution part, or the immunity because of membership parts.

I know your comments weren't directed at me, but I feel the need to respond, there is no offense taken and I hope you aren't offended by what I have to say. It is all just perspective after all.

Membership is free, A contribution nets you information and a kit that might help you protect yourself, and the constitution "should" provide all the defense that is required without even needing the "kit". That is if the part where it states right at the very beginning "The government shall make NO law regarding the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof" (please correct me if I misquoted or misunderstand) To state a religion is or is not valid by the government completely negates this first and most important right that the bill of rights gives us. (in my opinion anyway).

In Craig's case, the judge even refused to allow him to inform the jurors of our bill of rights as it would confuse them. At least that is what he told me.

I do understand your point Buzzby, While I believe CraigX was sincere, I can see how what he did could be taken the way you take it, Hollywood is a whole nother world sometimes. If you are talking about THC Ministries and Roger Christie, then you know something I am not aware of.

However, I'm only trying to give a different perspective, and am in no way trying to sell you my religion or anything else for that matter. I'm simply asking that I be given the same respect you would wish to receive regarding your beliefs. I'm not a member of this church "just so I can smoke pot" I sincerely consider this my Eucharist, my sacrament, and until my choice negatively affects another human, I would hope that all of humanity will respect my choices. If I commit harm, make me aware of it, and I'll make it right myself, by my own choice without being forced.

Sorry if that came across in any way resembling harsh, I'm simply trying to add some perspective to your coments.

Peace and Love

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Derp420

No you don't haha... Rastafarians worship Haile Selassie I, the former Emperor of Ethiopia. Any religion that focuses on the worship of a human being is beyond me.

Rastafarians deny Jesus Christ, but not even for a healthy reason. They don't like the depiction of Jesus to be a white man. They think that we all started as black individuals. They worship Selassie because he's a physical being. There are photographs and video footage of the man. There is no proof of this Jesus of Nazareth, other than thousand year old scrolls, translated into every language in the world.

There are very few people in this world that actually deny that Yeshua ben Yosef (Jesus Christ) wasn't a real person, but the question is... is he the Messiah or just a prophet? (religious mentor/messenger of God)

Even though life supposedly began somewhere in today's Motherland (Africa) that doesn't mean we all started as dark skinned men.

But I'd rather not get into that right now, haha, it is late.

Merry-juana

Well, you can become one if you wish. It is as easy as choosing it as your religion. I was a rastafarian, but now I do not beleave it entirely. In my endless search for the truth I was a Christian, a Buddhist, Rastafarian, and many variations of new age. Right now, I have Cristianity as a base, but I do not beleave the bible or the church to tell the truth, so other than the fact that I beleave that Jesus Christ is my saviour of my soul and the true messiah, I beleave that the bible is written by man and man can not be trusted, so I am finding my own religion through meditation and philosophy, not through any written text or spoken words.

Merry-juana

Utter bullshit, they say that Ras Tafari is the second coming of Christ
Plus, actually, Jesus was not white, he was Jewish.

Derp420

Exactly my point... which I will get to in a second.

Rastafarians don't worship Jesus. They worship Haile Selassie I (Ras Tafari) as the second coming of the BLACK messiah to help save the black race of oppression from Babylonians.

And none of us know what race of man Yeshua Ben Yosef (Jesus) was because none of us were alive during his time on Earth.

Considering the fact that he was born in Israel with a Hebrew name... we can ASSUME he's Jewish. But try telling that to most Africans or Rastafarians. Even Muslims believe he, and every other prophet in Islam, was an Arab and a Muslim. But try telling that to the Hebrew people and to most Christians. EVERYONE thinks they know everything about him.

But the only thing we should agree upon is that he is a human.

I personally think a human should never be worshiped. Be is Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, Haile Selassie, David Koresh, Joseph Smith, etc. because as humans... none of them are holier than thou creator, therefore only the Divine Intelligence should deserve our praise and thanks.

On that note... praise Jah

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Bhikku

Buddhists have a rule in the Five Precepts that is the "refraint from intoxicating drink or drugs which may induce carelessness." Mostly because getting blitzed out of your mind is counter to the idea that being mindful is one of the tenets of the Eightfold Path.

However, Buddhism also teaches you to not blindly trust in any teachings but the ones you find to be reasonable, and it also preaches all things in moderation, so it gets pretty widely interpreted as far as whether intoxication (within reason) is disrespect.

And just according to my personal experience, most of the Buddhists I know (even those who are devout) smoke pot, including myself. Even if they don't smoke cigarettes or drink.

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Researcher

OK, so you're saying that Buddhists get high? I suspected that such a cool religion would not mind enabling one to partake of the natural hallucinogenics plants. But really, the thought of getting high and then worshipping in a church or temple is prolly not something you want to do because the main reason of worshipping is to get closer to God with your sober mind. I guess. But then again, I should never get into discussions of Religion or Politics. I get high when I do mundane things like cut my lawn grass, and do simple home repairs. No need to get high to enable me to worship God though.

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Hey, it's just a daym plant!

Leo420

There's more on weed+religion+meditation and the whole enlightenment thing here:
Headstuff Books Discussion • Index page

It seems to be well accepted in some kinds of Buddhism, and pretty much allthe Saddhus do it.

L420

Buzzby

I don't think so. Buddhists do get high, but it's not sanctioned by the religion, except for a few obscure Left-Hand Path sects. Not using intoxicants is right up there with not killing and not stealing. Perhaps in my next life I'll be a better Buddhist and not smoke dope. I have also been known to engage in sexual misconduct and false speech. At least I'm not killing or stealing! I'm working my way down from the top of the list. I'll give up smoking dope right after I give up masturbation and telling tall tales.

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Researcher

Well Mister Buzzbee: congratulations on your ability to actually fess up and face the Precepts that are instituted by your particular Buddhist faith--I presume that Gotama himself would applaud you (did Gotama get high also?). Do you actually think that you will ever become so involved with your Religion that you give up getting stoned?