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Old 07-11-2008, 07:25 AM   #1
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Just wondering how many fellow Deists there are on the boards.

I just had a few questions:

1. How long have you considered yourself a Deist?
2. Why/how does Deism benefit you?
3. Did marijuana help you find Deism in any way?
4. Does marijuana make you more spiritual?
5. Why did you leave whatever previous religious philosophies you studied and obtain Deism instead?

...by the way guys, if you don't know already, Deism isn't a religion. It's a philosophy.

I'll explain later, I'm going to bed haha.
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:59 PM   #2
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On a side-note I find that although most Jews, Christians and Muslims (so-called Monotheists) would be called Deists, their conception of what a "god" is is so abstract and beyond most Polytheistic Deistic (not Hinduism) conceptions of the divine that I conclude that Judaism, Christianity and Islam have personified a holy universe and truth in the shape of a god, as an limited observation rather than an actual physical description. The God of these religions is formless and abstract, closer in nature to the Tao of the Tao rather than a humanoid, primitive god.

Please forgive me if I insult your conception of what God or a god is. I find that the word "god" is just one of many words that describe what God is.
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Old 07-13-2008, 07:26 AM   #3
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On a side-note I find that... most Jews, Christians and Muslims (so-called Monotheists) would be called Deists
What do you mean?

Most Monothesists are in fact that... Theists. There is one major difference between Theism and Deism. The difference is that more Theists base their faith on faith alone. Deists deny things that are supernatural, like prophecies, divine intervention, angels, etc... things that are all in the Torah, the Bible, and the Qur'an.

Deists believe that God gave us only two things we need to survive, the planet and reason. Name one thing that can't be sorted out with reason. Reason is something revealed religions deny.

Religion is just a shortcut. Jesus can't eat your lunch for you... you have to do some things for yourself.

Example: How reasonable is it that Jesus walked on water? Or that Noah fit a pair of every animal on his ark? Or that God molded the first man from clay (Islam)?

Now let's take a reasonable approach.

How reasonable is that that we evolved from maybe something less complex? Seems a little more likely since every other animal on the planet did... why wouldn't we have?

Too many people think things like evolution and the Cambrian explosion (the big bang) disprove a God... when I personally believe they should just further fuel our faith.

All in all the only real problem I have with religion is Dogma. Why live a certain lifestyle just because Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John (4 people I've never even met) told me I should.
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Yes, but many Deists and Theists, and this is my point, have a certain view of God like the Polytheistic religons, except there is only one God rather than many.
This is a sad confusion in my Universalist Panentheist opinion.
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Yes, but many Deists and Theists, and this is my point, have a certain view of God like the Polytheistic religons, except there is only one God rather than many.
This is a sad confusion in my Universalist Panentheist opinion.
Well, I know a lot of Hindus... and Hinduism is considered a polytheistic religion. And many of them don't like to consider Hinduism polytheistic.

They like to think that all the deities in their religion are just "personalities" or traits on the one true god.

Really only non-Hindus consider the religion polytheistic.

Technically Christianity can be considered polytheist because of the Holy Trinity... father, son, and holy spirit. All three of these are worshiped in the religion. Yet the religion also says not to worship a "false idol". Well, if the father, the son, and the holy spirit all supposedly exist and aren't false idols, they can be considered holy, maybe even deities... and if there are three of them... that would make it polytheistic.

I don't necessarily agree with that... but it makes sense.
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