oni

ok, well, I was with you for a little bit with the human thought thing, until you introduced god. You completely contradicted yourself. Humans have the ability to think rationally. If we stick to this ability the "allusion" of any god is absurd. The only purpose of god was created to shelter the fear of death from the weak. But Buddhism is very commendable, because buddha is not considered a god, and is not to be worshipped. He is simply a figure whom people strive to live up to. That's why the Christians and Muslims create all the wars and "crusades", and the Buddhists chill out and focus on inner peace.

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Rusty_Cage

Dude, the whole point was that there is no conventional God, but that God is everything. God is simply existance, not some creator that wants us to all coexist peacefully, rather God just is... everything. I mean, it would be irrational to think that existance is nothing, so it has to be something. We think, we feel, we interact with one another by communicating information and experiences. This is God! The universe simply being is the idea of God I'm talking about. Everything is so relative, that this seems to be the most sensible explanation for me. It's not contradictory at all...

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PhreshwaterPhunk

Yeah, I wrote a thread like this a while back... It was called like overpowering god or something, I completly forget. I'll search for it after this.

Well anyways, I completly agree and understood everything you just said. And I agree, in a sense. Although we are not God to the plants, we have a "God" greater than us. That's what we call him.

The trees and animals which all act on instinct, are lower than us, and cannot understand things that we are capable of understanding. This is part of the reason why us as humans problemize in our heads and created technology and weapons so we could overpower the other animals. God understands so much more than us, and on a completly different scale than we can even comprehend.

You know how we can "make up" animals? And theorize "completly new" theorys? well they're actually just extensions of our own world. We can only imagine our own. Sure, dragons are mythology, and just imagined up all the sudden, never really LIVING. But it came from commonday things, like Birds and Lizards and Flame. All this stuff we already know. But God has something we don't even comprehend, if you want to call him God.

Maybe we can gain God's understanding, and overpower him, gain his position in the universe. Kind of like if all the Apes in the world suddenly comprehended stuff in our capacity, and started building their own weapons and struck back. They could overpower us. Just like that, we could overpower god. But it's so unimagianable it only SEEMS impossible.





Edit: Here's the link to the thread I wrote a while back. Thread

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Rusty_Cage

Dude, that's completely different than any of my ideas. You're still conceptualizing God as a seperate entity. That is the flaw of humans, because we have the tendency to think within our understanding of ourselves. Dude, I don't think we can overpower God because that would be a paradox... God isn't some seperate being that created all this and allows it to exist, rather he is existance itself. I keep saying "he" and using nouns because it is my biased tendency as a human. It is outside our capacity of biased and relative understanding to think of God other than a being, but God is being itself. The plant there, simply because it IS there, exists. Because it exists, it is God. Even when we die and decompose into the ground, just because we no longer possess a "consciousness"(which I debate in my initial post) that does not be we no longer exist as God. We are in the ground or wherever, still fulfilling the function of God, which is existing, since we know matter can never be destroyed, just moved around and reassembled. All this matter exploded from a star anyways...

Hence all the theology that I once mindlessly memorized makes new sense to me. "From dust to dust" we were all once particles floating in space and once again, through time, this will be the case. No matter what though, we will exist as God, no matter what our current state is.

aznp1noy

I'm an athiest ( not sure how to spell it ), I don't believe in god, however when I'm high I like to think I'm a god. I usually smoke in the morning and go to school high and make people next to me call me god.

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Calico

You're ****ing weird.

Anyways, That's a good theory I suppose. But it says in the bible, we can not understand what God is. Quit trying.

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Rusty_Cage

Dude, that was my whole point! If God is everything, then we couldn't possibly fully understand God until we understood absolutely everything... which doesn't even make sense to think about. I mean, as humans we are so restricted and know so very little about the universe. I mean, the universe is God, and it would be a self-defeating paradox for us, as part of this one being, the only real being, the complete being, the universe, to wonder of itself. Because to wonder of something is to distinguish matter but we are all the same matter. Forms mean nothing because being is infinite. We apply concepts such as time to distinguish being, because we are biased with our current form. When in reality, being is simply being and as part of the being, we will exist infinitely. Dying, living, feeling pain, having love are all just concepts used to measure and organize things for our curent form. It is more convenient and human nature.

Bluntedinto Zen

but your defining god as everything

Rusty_Cage

I'm not defining God, because that would imply my own knowledge of God. I am simply aware of God as existance. To understand God would be to understand such vast existance and being. From my current from, this is impossible. God isn't an entity which desires to be understood, that would imply a human association, and therefore would be incredibly arrogant of me. All I need to know is that God just is... I need not limit God with definitions biased by my own human capacity for understanding.

aznp1noy

Like I said before I'm an athaist so I also don't believe in any religions and I don't believe THE BIBLE one bit. It's full of b@#sh@t. Today a lot of those stories in the bible are being proven to be greatly exaggerated or false or some natural phenomenon. Watch discovery channel more often, once in a while one of those bible stories come up.