LiveForMusic1827

My friend actually told me this but im sure its true. She told me theres a verse in the bible that says....taketh from all seed bearing plants. Hmm just like the cannabis plant?

blitzedonthabeach420

your friend is referring to genesis 1:29, which reads : God said, "I have given you every plant with seeds on the face of the earth and every tree that has fruit with seeds. This will be your food."

so with the food thing i suppose you could take as you want...but I dunno.

Everlong2019

and then you could also go into the fact that obviously things need to reproduce, and seeds are the ways that plants do it, but i believe in both creationism and evolution at the same time (if that makes any sense). but whatever, church and state hasnt really had any effect since the renaissance haha.

Larkins

Yeah, it is decidedly unchristian to prohibit any man from anything that does not impact the lives of others... but someone really needs to inform the christians of that...

Consider 1 Corinthians 6:12

" "Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything. "

This is Paul talking about the fact that under Christ we have the freedom to do anything but that we are also to consider the benefit of our actions and do that which is beneficial submitting ourselves only and wholly to God for direction.

Imposing laws based on some (clearly fallible) moral standard where the regulation of the actions of a people are not necessary for the functioning of society spits in the face of God by imposing artificial limitations on the freedom He has granted us.

It goes back to the beginning. Why give us the choice to disobey Him? None can know the mind of God, but certainly there is more value in someone choosing to love you than being made to love you. There is much value in the followers of Christ living good lives by their own choice rather than by the mandate of the State. As Christians we claim the freedom to do all things BUT we bind ourselves to do what is beneficial as understood through the Word of God.

Beyond that, while we are not to do things that make our brothers and sisters stumble, in the privacy of my own home, if something is beneficial for me, I have the right and the freedom to do it.

Certainly there are some people who abuse cannabis. There are people who abuse masturbation. Fuck, there are people that abuse television to the detriment of their family friends and lives. For these people, I do not wish to be a stumbling block. But they should still not be legally restricted from using cannabis any more than they should be legally restricted from watching TV.

Of course, Christians are to submit themselves to the judgement and authority of their government. But in America, the people are the sovereign. Of course we've forgotten that. Our federal and state governments exist to SERVE the people not to RULE the people.

So there are some sticky issues there. Some Christians take the teaching to mean that we must abide by all laws. But this produces issues with things like civil disobedience as a method for protest. It also can, in some cases, put man's law before God.

I am to help my fellow man and love my neighbors as myself. In some cases, this may mean that I'm called by God to give them some weed. I know how much cannabis can help migraines. It's a fucking miracle. There is no way I am going to sit by and not do as God commanded me. I will pack a bowl and pass the bong to my debilitated friend and give them the relief for which God provided in the cannabis plant.

So I take it to mean that I will still follow God and live first, foremost, and wholly for Him. Regardless of the law when necessary. That I am to fully submit myself to the judgement of the law under which I live. If I am caught with weed, I will fulfill my legal obligation happily and honorably knowing I am doing God's work. I will not limit myself based on law lessening my positive impact on the world in the name of God, and I will submit myself willingly to the law when and if I am required to do so.

We see examples of this in Christ, his disciples, the apostles, and many martyrs. Christ, to the point of death, submitted to the law in spite of the fact that he was innocent and without sin. Many of his followers died in jails. But they weren't bitter or hate filled. They knew that they were still doing the work they were called to do. They accepted their fate and submitted to authority -- but that doesn't mean they allowed the local laws to supersede what they knew they were called to do by God.

So many of the "Christian Right" just don't understand the damage they are doing in the name of Christ.

It's a shame more of those who call themselves Christians don't open their hearts and minds to the truth of the religion they profess. It would do wonders for the rest of the world as well, as the people of all countries would see that the mandate of Christ is to benefit your fellow man not to restrict and control him.

It's a fucking shame.

The peace of the Lord be with you.

Freedom_User

The bible could have said, "And I giveth you marijuana, to free your mind and think for yourself". But the script will eventually mean nothing after the power of greed overruns it by keeping it illegal.

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The feds continually use and twist this simple clause as an excuse to expand their own power - at the expense of our liberty.

"If you shot a ton of pot to the Sun, will it burn up and get everyone high?"

Zocalo

Doesn't matter cuz who wrote the bible? We don't know, and if u don't know who wrote it, it could be anyone, right? even an idiot? correct?

Not blaming Catholics here, I am one myself, but I'm not ur conventional one, I believe that the bible is prohibiting us from our common goal, which are the 10 commandments. I don't rly like the bible, lol, sry, stoned rant.

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Marvin420

The bible says a lot of things that no one in their right mind would even consider doing today.

str8dank

as far as any of us know the first bible could have said smoke weed everyday and we wouldnt know it. the oldest copy we have of the bible is the codex synactica and the modern version of the bible has verses in it that in fact were notfound in this copy. The codex synactica is still from about 500 CE so the bible could have been re-written several times with things added and things taken away. And none of the new testament writers were even alive while Jesus was alive. Scholars belive that Mark's gospel was written first, Matthew, mark, and luke adapted their version of the gospel from the "Q- Source." this is believed to be written by the very first christians.

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"when the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace" - Jimi Hendrix

LiveForMusic1827

Yeah I always wondered who actually wrote the bible.

HNKMASTER

I believe it was just a expresion of God of how men will govern over the world.
Maybe cannabis plant is included, My opinion is that everything is good, but when you do excess is real bad.

eating, drinking, smoking,working,etc a lot have there consequences in time.


Excess= the state or an instance of surpassing usual.