dre1136

Lasr night while getting high, I was talking to my buddy about how a mutual friend of ours got some girl pregnant and how his life was ruined. And I was like if that was me I would just pay the money and get an abortion because having babies at a young age is not cool. So Ryan was like there is NO WAY I would kill my baby I don't care what happens. And he went on to tell me how it was murder cuz it's in the bible and all. So after hearing this a akward pause ensued, so I'm like I think the only reason religious people are so anti-abortion is what i some chick gets knocked up and she's carrying the baby Jesus and she gets scared and aborts it and we all die for her mistake.

Now I don't know what to think two views and which one is right?

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WNB

I think bringing another unwanted baby into the world is irresponsible. Especially if the parents are two teenagers, it'll really screw up their lives, too, to say nothing of the life that's in store for the baby.

I can see where people that are against abortion are coming from too, though. That just means that they themselves shouldn't get abortions; they shouldn't go around telling other people what they can and cannot do.

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Higher Logic

I think the debate about abortion goes much deeper than is it murder or not. There are a lot of psychological issues involved, it's a very emotional experience. Also, what you consider a "problem" could be a blessing later on in life. My thoughts on the subject are if someone wants to abort a baby then by all means do it, it's not my baby so I have no room to say yay or nay; but there are lots of people who cannot conceive and would probably love to raise your "mistake" because it will bring them nothing but joy.

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THE_ODA

I think, as WNB said, bringing an unwanted child into this world is irresponsible. Christians aren't against abortion because they could be killing the potential re-birth of Jesus, they're against it because it's killing period. There was a time when Christianity was more than politics and useless rules, however - we have since forgotten those times.

Roy

When it becomes murder is a matter of opinion. When is a fetus anything more than tissue?
If you are a bible believer then even "spilling seed" is wrong.

It's a curious thing how "christians" are against abortion but all for war and the death penalty.

God is Pro-Choice (aka Free-Will).

Plainsman1963

^^^^^Exactly^^^^

Some people believe a fertilized egg is the beginning of life...By that rationale, any woman who has had more than one period is a mass murderer.

Stephanie S.

Um, that's very stereotypical.

Regarding when does a fetus become a human life, well, children begin learning inutero (inside the womb). Their senses begin to develop at the embryonic stage of development. A teeny-tiny peanut shaped embryo will react to various stimuli, even pain.

I am 100% Pro-Choice. I don't want any girl or woman to feel so desperate that she allows some freak-o back-alley doctor to destroy her internal organs in an attempt to rid herself of her unwanted pregnancy.

I'm not sure if we should even be discussing this. Like religion and politics, this issue could get ugly fast. Also, about the only way this relates to marijuana is that I am Stoned and apparently so was Dre1136 when he had this chat with his buddy. So, we'll see if it stays.....


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Roy

"I'm not sure if we should even be discussing this. Like religion and politics, this issue could get ugly fast. Also, about the only way this relates to marijuana is that I am Stoned and apparently so was Dre1136 when he had this chat with his buddy. So, we'll see if it stays....."

Maybe this thread can be moved to "World In Crisis" where off-topic is OK. It's a rough fit but since that is the only place for off topic conversations maybe you can get it to fit.
I suggest MJ.com make an off-topic section for theories. A common effect of MJ is to invoke creative ideas. This website is a good place for stoned people to be able to discuss these theories.
Even though this thread started with abortition it can move-on to other topics such as when does life begin. This is the kind of thing your users may enjoy (trying not to steriotype)

strange_blaze

Personally, I am against abortion. I wont tell anyone what they can or cannot do, and I usually prefer not to talk about it at all, but I am against it.
A really close friend of mine had an abortion almost 2 years ago, she was really scared to tell me as she knew my position on abortion, but she told me and I supported her as much as she needed, but inside I was crying all the time....not just for the baby, but for her and what she is going to have to deal with her whole life.
I believe that if you think you are old enough and mature enough to have sex, then you need to deal with the possible consequences in a well thought out manner.
It saddens me to think about all the men and women in the world who cannot have children and would give everything they have for a child, and then some 18 year old irresponsible girl whos already had 3 abortions.
In my opinion, the most responsible and moral decision is to give the baby a chance, and give it up for adoption. Keep in mind this is my opinion and I really dont want to fight about it.
Oh, also, I am adopted so I think that affects my feelings about this subject.

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I am not up to date on the latest statistics, but I remember researching this issue several years ago in high school and at that time there was a huge problem all over North America about how foster homes were very overcrowded with children up for adoption. So unless the situation has changed drastically in the past few years, if a couple can't have a child and wants to adopt there are plenty of children of all ages who would love to have responsible, loving parents.

I neither morally agree nor disagree with abortion, but I do think the option should exist. I feel that it would be wrong if a pregnant mother could not legally get an abortion and I don't think she should be frowned upon by society for her choiceto do so. If the option didn't exist then what would a rape victim do if she was knocked up and didn't get a contraceptive in time, or if it happened where contraceptives are not readily available...? I don't think she should be sentenced to raise that SOB's kid just because she was a rape victim.

If someone did get an abortion the chances of this woman regretting the decision the rest of her life are pretty good, but I believe the choice should still exist.

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