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suede

My religion accepts smoking weed,as long as I go through the ritual of holding the precious herb to the sun and saying a few words of hope for the good of mankind........b.s.

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Scribble

schwadood said "I agree that to accept that you just don't know is a better view point than to just plain believe." But isn't the whole essence of religion faith? i.e. believing?

schwadood

Scribble, you're right when you say that religion is believing, bit I think I didn't articulate my point well enough. I was referring to the type of person that just believes what they have been taught without looking for some kind of proof, whether that be a religious vision or the feeling that god has helped you in some way, or any number of other things. I have looked for proof for my beliefs. While not all my evidence is what you could call concrete, its proof enough for me. And to point this back on topic, marijuana(along with a two other substances I'm not supposed to mention), or more specifically getting high, has helped me collect some of my proof. peace

P.S. I'm not trying to make it sound like I'm better than anyone else because of my beliefs. All of you seem like intelligent people who have gone through some serious soul searching to get to your beliefs as they are today and I highly respect that.

HappyMan

Since there is no 'correct' religion, it is impossible to say that smoking marijuana is inheriently wrong. Conservitive Christian and Islamic sects may believe so, but they do not represent the majority of the world's spirituality.

According to a puritian christian faith anything that is pleasureable is a sin, including dancing, sex, rest and injesting mind altering substances. While puritian christianity is influencial in American culture it's membership is tiny. There are Hundereds of millions of people whose religions couldn't care less about marijuana and their beliefs should be taken into account.

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is what we are talking about. To blindly follow a belief that has absolutely no evidence to back it up is dangerous. But to develop a belief based on evidence is enlightening; there is at least a chance to get it right. If you stand at a train terminal and wait for a bus you will never get it right. If you at least explore enough to find out you need to go to a bus terminal to catch a bus; you have a chance to get it right. That is what taking the journey of life is about, “do it with your eyes wide open not shut”.

Now to satisfy the on-topic folks. There is no heaven or hell so, toke up dude!

 

robb

all is about evidence! right
if you want evidence that God exists and that the things that happened in the bible are true you have to want to find it, if you just say well i've read the bible and it didn't do anything for me thats not right because you didn't leave space for anything to happen.

there is an experience in God that once you witness it and have yourself you cannot deny it, it proves itself. but you need to be opened to it. you keep saying "oh keep an opened mind to all the possibilities" let me tell you that once you taste of God's Spirit you quickly realize that He is the way, the truth and the life. I don't mean to be rude but some people make being a Christian alot more complicated than it realy is. Thats how i use to think I use to say "I believe in God or something but don't ask me to go to church" then i use to go and curse him in my talk. The bible speaks of this I'm paraphrasing "...having a form of godliness but denying the power therof" and its true i believed in God but as far as miracles and healing and such it was all magic or lies. But i just didn't understand what God could do.

and the only way I was able to know is when he sent someone to teach me his word and help me develope my own relationship with him.

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suede

So,anyone.!Holding the ceremonial bleubowl over my head and saying a few words of hope to the sun for the good of all mankind,doeth not my spirit soar to the mountain peaks and rest with God."b.s."

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Well, yah. When you are faced with a life threatening illness and go to the doctor, he wants and you want evidence of your illness. You may even go to another doctor to get verifying evidence (a second opinion). If your child were accused of something bad you would want evidence (what, when, where, how). In a job interview you want evidence that this is the job for you. Your potential employer wants evidence that you are qualified for the job.
Yes, I want evidence. For most any important life decision I make, I want evidence. Further, I find it curious that most people would want evidence for life decisions, yet when it comes to religious faith all reason goes out the window. I find this to be one of the greatest weaknesses in religion. Religion lacks any kind of evidence to support it.
If folks want a defendable argument for religion, I think the word “Trust” should be focused on. For example, I’m married and I trust my wife to be faithful. I don’t need evidence to believe that. I trust her. Now, if evidence comes before me to believe she isn’t faithful then I have something to work with. Until then I simply “trust” her.
Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, John Ashcroft, James Baker in my book these aren’t trustworthy people. This is evidence. No scientific facts to backup the God-Like occurrences described in the bible. This is evidence. The full throttle killing in the name of religion. This is evidence. Just to peck at the surface, the unrealistic rules in religions like, no women priests, no homosexuals, no coffee, etc. This is evidence. If this isn’t evidence enough I defiantly think “Trust” works for you.
Now, for the on-topic folks, weed is from the earth, weed is natural, weed is a religion. So, toke up dude.

bonghits4christ

Yeah its just too bad you are seeing the bad examples of religious people instead of seeing the spiritual people who are real about their faith. I knew a mormon who used to post on this site, his name was Priest, and he smoked marijuana and was a priest. I smoke marijuana and I'm a spirit-filled Christian. I try not to be holier than thou or be judgemental towards any one belief other than mine, but I will expose the truth of genocide by other religions, and I know about the spanish inquisition and their raping and killing of my ancestors. Believe me I've been there. But I can't allow men to distort my relationship with God. Look I hope it doesn't look like robb and I are ganging up on you. Anyway that's all I have to say for now, until next post.....

Peace out.

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Please don’t worry, If there were no differences in life we wouldn’t have anything to talk about. And as far as this topic goes I fully realize that I’m a minority.

Also, I feel that I see the positive things in religion. I just realize that the hand of a god doesn’t have anything to do with it. For example, recently on the news, it was reported that a mother went berserk and decided to shoot her kids to death. For one child the bullet was slowed or stopped because he had a bible with him. He lived; now, I don’t need to go to his church this Sunday to know what will be said. It will go like this “God decided to save this young fellow”, “God decided that it wasn’t his time”, “His faith saved him” and so on. Now, we all really know that any book of similar size/density would have done the same life saving task (the police call it a bulletproof vest). Heck, a phone book or a Betty Crocker Cookbook would have done the same thing. The only difference is that a cookbook would have a one-day news exposure where the bible would provide folklore for his religion; to be repeated over and over. These positive stories are abundant; a tornado and the untouched church, healing through prayer and signs from god to name a few.

As for unexplainable feelings of a gods presents; I find this a little curious. I think this is called “Feeling Good”. This state of good feeling can be achieved in many ways that have nothing to do with religion. Maybe you feel good simply because you feel good. Relationships, age, career, money all have a bearing on happiness. Get the right combination going and WHAM, ya feel good. Believing in god may just give you the right frame of mind to let, or to make, good things happen; it might not have anything to do with god, rather, it might simply be a mental tick to help cope. I say this not to hurt anyone, rather, just to give a different point of view.