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Well, yah. When you are faced with a life threatening illness and go to the doctor, he wants and you want evidence of your illness. You may even go to another doctor to get verifying evidence (a second opinion). If your child were accused of something bad you would want evidence (what, when, where, how). In a job interview you want evidence that this is the job for you. Your potential employer wants evidence that you are qualified for the job.
Yes, I want evidence. For most any important life decision I make, I want evidence. Further, I find it curious that most people would want evidence for life decisions, yet when it comes to religious faith all reason goes out the window. I find this to be one of the greatest weaknesses in religion. Religion lacks any kind of evidence to support it.
If folks want a defendable argument for religion, I think the word “Trust” should be focused on. For example, I’m married and I trust my wife to be faithful. I don’t need evidence to believe that. I trust her. Now, if evidence comes before me to believe she isn’t faithful then I have something to work with. Until then I simply “trust” her.
Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, John Ashcroft, James Baker in my book these aren’t trustworthy people. This is evidence. No scientific facts to backup the God-Like occurrences described in the bible. This is evidence. The full throttle killing in the name of religion. This is evidence. Just to peck at the surface, the unrealistic rules in religions like, no women priests, no homosexuals, no coffee, etc. This is evidence. If this isn’t evidence enough I defiantly think “Trust” works for you.
Now, for the on-topic folks, weed is from the earth, weed is natural, weed is a religion. So, toke up dude.

bonghits4christ

Yeah its just too bad you are seeing the bad examples of religious people instead of seeing the spiritual people who are real about their faith. I knew a mormon who used to post on this site, his name was Priest, and he smoked marijuana and was a priest. I smoke marijuana and I'm a spirit-filled Christian. I try not to be holier than thou or be judgemental towards any one belief other than mine, but I will expose the truth of genocide by other religions, and I know about the spanish inquisition and their raping and killing of my ancestors. Believe me I've been there. But I can't allow men to distort my relationship with God. Look I hope it doesn't look like robb and I are ganging up on you. Anyway that's all I have to say for now, until next post.....

Peace out.

BH4C

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Please don’t worry, If there were no differences in life we wouldn’t have anything to talk about. And as far as this topic goes I fully realize that I’m a minority.

Also, I feel that I see the positive things in religion. I just realize that the hand of a god doesn’t have anything to do with it. For example, recently on the news, it was reported that a mother went berserk and decided to shoot her kids to death. For one child the bullet was slowed or stopped because he had a bible with him. He lived; now, I don’t need to go to his church this Sunday to know what will be said. It will go like this “God decided to save this young fellow”, “God decided that it wasn’t his time”, “His faith saved him” and so on. Now, we all really know that any book of similar size/density would have done the same life saving task (the police call it a bulletproof vest). Heck, a phone book or a Betty Crocker Cookbook would have done the same thing. The only difference is that a cookbook would have a one-day news exposure where the bible would provide folklore for his religion; to be repeated over and over. These positive stories are abundant; a tornado and the untouched church, healing through prayer and signs from god to name a few.

As for unexplainable feelings of a gods presents; I find this a little curious. I think this is called “Feeling Good”. This state of good feeling can be achieved in many ways that have nothing to do with religion. Maybe you feel good simply because you feel good. Relationships, age, career, money all have a bearing on happiness. Get the right combination going and WHAM, ya feel good. Believing in god may just give you the right frame of mind to let, or to make, good things happen; it might not have anything to do with god, rather, it might simply be a mental tick to help cope. I say this not to hurt anyone, rather, just to give a different point of view.

Herbal Meditation

Weed is used and treated by some practitioners of Hinduism as an entheogen and/or as a holy recreational blessing.

MrProtein

ok well

1. its not addictive (technically)

2. IT is not destructive or harmful.....impossible to get a lethal dose

3. doesnt kill brain cells

4. no receptors in places of important function

5. no real hangover

the postives just go on and on and on and on. If you believe in God, which I do, dont think he would have gave us something like this.



I am sure the same arguement can be made of other off topics. but lets remember their were times when the ancients used them strictly as pain killlers and the fact that, they dont have to be abused to relieve pain. because lets face it, if you get say a spear through your guts, narcotics used properly can probably help the situation....




pot for me is theripuetic and enjoyable with no apparent negative consequences. The fact that it is psycho-active is not much of an arguement seeing as to how Jesus drank wine. To me, their is not really any moral differences between alcohol and marijuana


so this is my reasoning as to why i think its just fine from a religious stand point. Hopefully I have not forgotten any good and major points.

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mjharmless

i read somewhere that as a christian your supposed to treat your body as a temple and keep it pure or something along those lines so putting smoke in your lungs is not so good for the temple
anyway i am not nearly as knowledgable as some of the people here ive been reading just adding my thoughts to the really cool discussions

dirtbomb

There are various schools of thought within Judaism.
Starting off with an "Anti" argument that the ultra-Orthodox have about any use of substances that have psychological or physical dependency issues. "You start squandering money that can be used to feed and clothe members of your household." Legit injunction, if you have a propensity to overdo things.
The one that I have to laugh about, comes from complete misunderstanding of the effects of Cannabis. "If you get high, you start getting used to the euphoria that people experience in Heaven, thus dulling the feeling in the after-life." Uhh. I really hope Heaven is a heck of a lot more euphoric than the simple enjoyment of an innocuous plant.
That said, there isn't any specific rule against moderate use.

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