Bongzilla

Yes, I have always known/thought that it all begins with the whole 'work for money your whole life so you can retire for 20 years comfortably until you die' way of thinking.

But it is very hard to throw it away. I know that right now I DON'T want to go through the standard life but try to find out something different, but I have doubts I'll do that, I think I'll end up going to university and working a job that makes me wake up and hate my life

A friend of mine has a brother who has been living in Oregon for a year or two and lives at a commune. Basically they all pitch in to grow their own food and they live there and a guru teaches them about philosophy. The people there are pretty young and there are guys AND girls there

Sounds like a great place, if any of you ever want to make a commune/utopia in Canada, call me up

The Stoned Philosopher

interesting link hehe commune = communism Thats right, marx got the idea from the paris commune when everyone shared everything and no one cared about personal gain.
Socialism cant work in a world with greed and money,it gets warped into Stalinism and Maoism which is another name for facism.
Only in a world when everyone is a taoist or buddhist then socialism can be a viable economy

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The Stoned Philosopher

Bongzilla

But in a commune people volunteer to join and live in it, it's not like in the Soviet union where it was forced upon everyone.

But yes, if everyone were Buddhist the world would be a better place

The Stoned Philosopher

The "communism" used in the Soviet Union was Stalins warped version of it,it wasnt the communism Marx invisoned.

Mamabudz

of course you could always go to Israel and join a kibbutz....there are Christian ones too

it's social communism and it does work....

of course a Buddhist Ashram is a lovely idea...

Zen isn't really a religion so much as a n ideology...

Or you could attend a liberal arts college and spend time discovering who you are and what you want to learn from life...That way when you you climb the ladder of success and reach the top, you don't discover to your horror you had the ladder propped up against the wrong wall....

~ of course...I bake cookies

bonghits4christ

I have to disagree with bongzilla. I think you said that if everyone was a buddhist this world would be a better place. Very untrue. We all know there are many corrupt monks and sects of buddhism which hate and try to eliminate others similar to Christianity. I do agree that if everyone truly believed in the Buddha and had the enlightenment of zen, this world would be a better place. Same goes for Christianity. Not all Christians are good people. But if everyone who really loved Jesus and what he stood for, not religious ritual, the world would flourish with beauty.



P.S. barett, I have been thinking about collectively creating a new denomination similar to how you described it. I feel that this would be the most practical way to legalization.


Peace out
BH4C

The Stoned Philosopher

Can you give us some examples of "corrupt buddhist sects" hating christianity?

schwadood

I would also like to know this considering two basic teachings in Buddhism is tolerance and pacifism.

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bonghits4christ

Well, I meant that some buddhist sects have tried to get rid of other sects within buddhism. I don't think there has been any persecution of the Christians beside the Boxer Rebellion which happened in the middle of last century. Many Buddhists were getting converted to Christianity. Many Buddhists started a revolt and killed Buddhists that converted to Christianity and Christians because of the culture being slowly stripped of its identity. I can understand the hatred, but I can't understand the murder. I can't get myself to believe these were true Buddhists who carried out these actions. To be honest I can't really remember the whole story about this revolt. I have to read up on it and refresh my memory.

Peace out

BH4C

The Stoned Philosopher

It doesnt make sense to me either, when they start to hate people then they arent buddhist anymore, simple as that.
Anyway i pretty much had a clue that the history of buddahism wasnt "clean" like we would like to think. Even though it is most the time peaceful but they are people too and of course sh*t happens. Another example of this happening is when the CIA came to Tibetian Buddhists when China was occupying Tibet and asked them to cooperate in a anti communuist revolt (strange,doesnt buddahist teachings lean towards socialism?)
th dahli lamas brother accepted(even though not all of them did) and all hell broke loose. Now you kind of understand whats REALLY happening over there in Tibet now. Niether side is completely innocent.
But overall compared to the many wars and inquisitions done by the christian religion these events are really really minor.