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Old 04-06-2006, 01:52 AM   #1
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Default Psalms 14:1 - "The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God."

1. Why do you think the Christian god considers atheists foolish?
2. What does "foolish" mean, in this context?
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Old 04-06-2006, 02:15 AM   #2
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"God" didn't write the psalms. The psalmist thinks atheists are foolish.
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Old 04-06-2006, 03:01 AM   #3
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Well actually you need the rest of the verse for us to answer this, or at least for it to make sense:
The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
The Hebrew words that rendered "fool" in Psalms means someone who is morally deficient. So there's your answer to the first and second question, since the writer of Psalms—not the Christian god, because the Christian god didn't write Pslams—was not talking about atheists either.

I guess it also depends on what you think sin is. The Jews gave the idea of sin to the Christians, and the Jews have a completely different idea of what sin is. Nachmanides said it best:
"We gave you Christians the idea of sin and you didn't know what to do with it. You'd be better off to just go on being Pagans."
Then again, if you really want to get detailed, we'd have to start talking about where the terms good and evil, Satan, and sin come from, and that would mean a lengthy discussion on Egyptian religion, but more importantly the movement of the Egyptians from the North to the South...but that's probably way too much for this thread
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:21 AM   #4
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Cool James, Chapter 3, verse 8...

" But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison."
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:34 AM   #5
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Alright, and what exactly does that have to do with the topic? Because I can quote Bible verses all day long, as well I can point out contradictions all day long too, but it still doesn't have anything to do with the question. Then again, I answered the question, so there really isn't anything to talk about now is there?
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Old 04-06-2006, 06:00 AM   #6
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Well since we're throwing out seemingly unrelated quotes...

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." —Darwin
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Old 04-06-2006, 04:03 PM   #9
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dedbr, please stay on-topic. If you continue to post seemingly unrelated nonsense in threads, I'm going to start warning you for "turbo-posting", which is against the posting guidelines.

I've tolerated your off-topic posts all across the board for some time now, because they haven't harmed anyone, but really this is getting ridiculous.

Consider yourself verbally warned, if you're going to post something that seems to have nothing to do with the topic at hand, you'd better post WHY it has something to do with the topic at hand or it's going to be considered off-topic and I'll probably start deleting your posts.

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The Hebrew words that rendered "fool" in Psalms means someone who is morally deficient.
So what does morally deficient mean? Unrighteous? What does unrighteous mean? That doesn't really tell me much. I guess it means God doesn't like you very much if you say that in your heart?

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So there's your answer to the first and second question, since the writer of Psalms—not the Christian god, because the Christian god didn't write Pslams—was not talking about atheists either.
My bad on the Christian god, I made the topic without proofreading and later I realized it was an old testament quote, heh. But, you don't think he was talking about atheists? Why not? It says, "hath said in his heart", that means someone who believes it, not just professes it.
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Old 04-06-2006, 06:49 PM   #10
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Cool OK cassius.....

You called the tune, now lets dance....


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I've tolerated your off-topic posts all across the board for some time now, because they haven't harmed anyone, but really this is getting ridiculous.

Consider yourself verbally warned, if you're going to post something that seems to have nothing to do with the topic at hand, you'd better post WHY it has something to do with the topic at hand or it's going to be considered off-topic and I'll probably start deleting your posts.
If you don't understand my posts, please don't insult the rest of the board with your wasted post, PM me and I'll explain it to you.

Lit Match seemed to get it, huh?

I don't make off-topic posts. I don't have enough time left to waste it with off topic posts, pooter. If I have to post why my posts have anything to do with the topic, then why do you seem to be the only one who has a problem understanding my posts?


Since you don't get it, I'll break it down for ya, OK?

My first post, from the book of James..."But the tongue is an unruly evil..." has to do with the use of the tongue to cut too deeply at times. Merely my way of saying that not all scriptures are always sweet and poetic.

If your going to quote scriptures, why can't I?


Post two..."Life is tough" John Wayne.


Life is tough if your stupid. Do you disagree? Or just not get it?


I will consider myself verbally warned, but you called the tune cass, get ready to dance.

If you want to debate this post of yours, I ask you this then. What does it have to do with other than the "Prayer" thread that we are finishing up with that you all just got trashed in by me and GG?

Are you really that deeply in need of proving yourself right?
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