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someone773

How do people believe this? it is based completely on blind faith with no reason to beleive it except that someone wrote a book. nothing more to say. Now can someone point out how im wrong?

 

TheUnseenTruth

Yes, I can. Instead of asking politely why christians follow their book and such, you chose to rudely state your opinion. I'm not a fan of religon, but I am a fan of feelings. So try not to hurt anyone, with poorly worded senteces on a very touchy subject.

Blind faith only applies to the blind mind. Buzzby bleives what he believes, and Phuzz and all the rest of us here believe something ; but to say that because there's no evidence to support gods, that makes them pointless is silly.

I've known a few good religous folk, and man those people are good down to the last fiber of their soul. If you want to get technical, what's wrong with blind faith if your heart is pure, and your intentions for good? It's only when you step over the boundaies of reality that you become blind with faith. Reading the bible and feeling warm inside is not that case of stepping over.

Tell us Joe, what do YOU believe?

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Buzzby

If a person's Christianity consists solely of sitting on his ass being self-satisfied because Jesus is going to save him from eternal damnation then it serves what I think is one of the basic reasons for religion: to alleviate (to some extent) the fear of death.

From my reading of the New Testament, Jesus wasn't looking to produce a personality cult that expected salvation simply by believing in his deity. He was looking for people to transform their lives by being unselfish and considering the needs of others just as they consider their own needs. To the extent that believers take that to heart, Christianity is a force for good in this world. Most of our problems stem from people striving to have more than they need while forgetting about those who don't have enough to survive.

Belief in Christ's deity requires blind faith. Belief in Christ's message requires only logic and the ability to see beyond the end of your own nose.

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someone773

first of all i choose not to put belief in anything that I have no reason to believe.
Heres my opinion on christianity.. chrisianity is basically a change to an already existing religion. Its Ideals are basically a perfect society. I think that it is a political move(look gow many people follow the church today and it was pretty much the caontroling power in the past). This is all my opinion and Im just seeing if anyone can whange my opinion on this religion. Well put buzby.

someone773

Also buzby are you a buddhist?

 

MeatRo

Religion is never about facts. You're not going to see a religious fanatic in an argument debating whether or not Moses parted the Red Sea and how.

It's about faith. Believing what you believe because YOU want to. I'm not religious, but I can't stand people who just don't understand it. It's simple, some people choose to lead their lives differently than you. Would you go to France and tell them they shouldn't eat snails because they're gross and slimy? No. So why tell a Christian he should abandon his FAITH <keyword> because it doesn't appeal to you?

Bottom line, religion is important, no matter what you think. Overall, religious people are kind, caring and raise their children very well.

The Bible isn't a history book. It's a rule book. Respect your neighbor, don't cheat on your wife, don't steal, be respectful, and that's all it is. It was a lot different back in the day, the Church controlled the world because it was like a way of trying to convert the world to your ideals. Kinda like if we could convert the world to agree with America, we'd probably have things a lot easier.

Nowdays tho, it's basically a guideline on how to live your life. You don't have to choose to do it and it's not for some people, but personally I've seen people who've dragged themselves up from rock bottom and went on to lead happy, fulfilling lives because they found religion. Why would I want to go to them and debate the one thing that turned them around?

Itzamna

Very well stated, i'm suprised at how many christians(directing the general christian church goers and even preachers/minsiters w.e.) still get the message of jesus, twisted.

Jesus was preaching God's new thought/idealogy/way of thinking/w.e. There was a division between Christians and muslim jews. (just for reference, there are different sects of Judaism Donmeh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) specifcally over the babylonian Talmud. God once preached voilence with the cannonites. Now he preached the word of love. Jesus was his messager Jesus taught the new word of god, that the babylonian talmud wasn't gods will. Even though the things the babylonian talmud taught were horrible, jesus still preached love for all humans, i can't find the specific verse right now where he says not to harm the followers of the babylonian talmud, but its in there. I can also related the story of jesus to many pagan religions......if you want to know more about this subject send me a PM.

Anyways, Jesus wasn't just put here to ease peoples minds about death, even if that was a side effect, but to stop killing and start loving. which can be related to many things, including the good evil force in star wars or the lord of the rings, yes it is very much a underlying theme in both these movies and in almost all movies for that matter.

A very modern and very concerning comparison to jesus is Bush,(except its not the babylonian talmud,but extremists radicals, don't even get me started how we support the jews who believe in the babylonian talmud,when actually they funded our country) in our War on Terror, we/bush are/is preaching democracy,the good force,even though we were founded and considered a republic, into contries who have radical beliefs and are considered evil.

1tokeovertheline

Why would God need a new mind?
I would like to hear one of his sermons.
To bad you can't find it, I would like to read it. In the several times I read the Bible, I never found it either.

I guess that goes to show that everything has a side effect.

WOW!!!!! You should have stopped right after you said "Jesus was preaching" and ended it there.

Itzamna

mind was a poor word choice, God wanted to give a NEW message, one that went directly agaisnt his old message. Its almost like he was lying,lol. Apparently even gods change their minds, which is not what most fundamentalist christians believe, they would never accept a god who preached violence or accept that their god once did!

I'll find it, give me some times its a Long book.

Well, movies are a underestimated huge propaganda tool i woudnt expect alot of people to understand.

1tokeovertheline

Yes it is a long book. Take your time. Read it all while you are at it.

Yes, you are.