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Herb Ninja

My sister is very paranoid. She thinks our family has hired assassins to kill her. (Yet my parents still pay her rent and food? Yep she has no common sense anymore.) Any attempt at force deprogramming would be met with extreme violence. I don't want anybody to get hurt, especially fatally wounded. She has shown the will and ableness for violence in the past. Were not talking about Buddists or Christians here. These people have doctrines stating people like me can be tricked, sued, lied to, or destroyed with the "churches" support. I am what they call, "Fair Game." My sister was not raised this way, she was made this way by scientology tactics, which aren't the best brianwashing techniques but sure are pretty damn effective. They also have a Celebrity Center where they invite top name celebrities to this palace and give them the star treatment, brainwash them into becoming a $cieno, and then they can mislead every day people into thinking its a good religion. Truth is everyday members get treated like useless scum, my sister was and she stopped working full time at their store(They payed 10$ a month, they avoid minimum wage laws by suing the IRS into declaring them a church and giving them tax exemption.) Yet after all the crap they put on her, the brainwashing only gets worse, thats the power of this cult. The Celebrity $cienos, such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta, either don't realize the destructive capabilities of their cult, or don't care because there so gone in the head. Maybe a little of both. Next time you go to see one of their movies, consider where your money might just be channeled too. I dunno about scientologists seeing this thread, but at a scientology critical message board I also post at is swarming with them. They do lots of research into people, investigate them for crimes and then try and expose them to the public so their criticizing will either stop out of fear or may not be credible since they commited a crime. Follow solutions link and read the Justice manual to learn a little bit about that. Thanks for your ideas and support, I just don't see it getting any better yet. Peace, HN-

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beats

Man thats horrible.

Considering everything, the best thing would probaly just sort of show her how much you care, as often as you can. Maybe someday she'll figure it out?

Good luck..

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DaDornta

Sounds to me like she needs to be admitted...strapped to a chair and sedated and THEN de-programmed.

If she truly is violent, then she is not only hurting others but herself as well. Violent people somtimes need a little extra care.

zoltron

I'm sure this isn't your parents' style, but what do you think she'd do if all finances were cut-off? If they just said, OK you're on your own & that's that. Would she totally flip? Get a job? Work for/with Scientologists? Just a thought...

Herb Ninja

Ive asked myself that question many times zoltron. Honestly I think she'd go insane(ohh wait she already is insane), probably go to a homeless shelter at best, or maybe kill herself. Scientologists believe in an immortal spirit that changes bodies every lifetime, so she believes she will just be reborn as somebody else and start a new life with the same soul. I used to tell my parents, cut her ass off, now I just tell them, if she does bad things, punish her, if I do bad things, punish me. If we treat her like a child forever, she will never grow up. If we cut her off like an adult, she will be a hopeless child that could quite possibly just end her own life. Theres a long history of scientologists commiting suicide, mostly to escape their debts from scientology, to escape their harassment, or to try and be reborn so they can be better scientologists in the next lifetime.

Scientology Kills. I don't want my sister to be the next victim of theirs.

 

zoltron

Yeah, no sh!t, I don't blame you there...no telling what might happen. Talk about your dilemnas...your proverbial rock & a hard place. I feel for your entire family, buddy. Well, I'll more than likely keep thinking about all this crap. My regards to your folks [& you of course]...

Herb Ninja

Thanks zoltron. Thanks to everyone for their support. Forget therapy, I got cheaptalk!

It could be worse, I know that. Not always do I realize it though...
Sometimes I feel like I should just give up on my sister, just let her go...
But those thoughts don't last long, not with all the great memories, this whole situation is really profound.
I mean, I could lose my sister forever to some crazy cult and their brainwashing.
Its too hard for me to just accept and get over, I love my sister, shes my only sibling, we have so much history. I don't blame her for doing all shes done, I hate to say it but its not her fault, she didn't do this to herself as much as it may look like it. I want to blame the scientologists that did this to her, but its not their fault either, they are just under this brainwashed impression that they are saving the world. I think it mostly stems from the creator of scientology, L. Ron. Hubbard, who did it for money, power, and to make himself appear as a demi-god. I also think this partly has to do with the IRS giving into all the lawsuits by scientology and declaring them a religion with tax exemption. His own son wrote an affidavit about it, how its all a big fraud, then "commited suicide" although it was was a very mysterious "suicide" I think he was probably murdered by hired assassins of his dad. Sometimes its like, I don't want to devote my life to saving my sister and others from this cult(seems like cult is too gentle of a word) but then I remember, id give my life for my sister. *crying right now* I just can't let her go, its too hard. I want her back. It hurts to see her this way. Shes practically deaf to my words, blind to the truth, its like everything I say avoids her. Ugh.... I'm rambling. I'll be back to vent later. Thanks for listening people. Appriciated. Peace, HN-

zoltron

What really surprises me is the IRS giving in to anybody. That's usually not their style. They're like the Mafia of the federal govt. Takes a lot of balls to f*ck with them cats...they pull a helluva lot of weight when it comes to doing whatever they damn well please. Very surprising. Well, if these dudes can intimidate the IRS, they're stronger & way more influential than the Mob & the CIA combined.

Herb Ninja

Scientology filed some 2500 lawsuits against the IRS. Lawsuits are one of the prime attack methods of scientology. Its creator had actually stated that they should NEVER defend scientology, always attack the attacker. You will notice that philosophy runs rampant in their cult.

Scientology is VERY influential, at least more then 90% of us think. They have about 100 other affiliated orginizations they created to do their dirty work under different disguises. Citizens Commisson on Human Rights, i'm not even going to begin to list all of them. Its insanity.

-Ted Gunderson, former head of the FBI's Los Angeles office, quoted about scientology in TIME May 6, 1991:

"In my opinion the church has one of the most effective intelligence operations in the U.S. rivaling even that of the FBI."

-Guardian Order 060971" seized in FBI authorized search of Scientology headquarters:

"The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are:
(T1) Depopularizing the enemy to the point of obliteration.
(T2) Taking over the control or allegiance of the heads or proprietors of all news media.
(T3) Taking over the control or allegiance of key political figures.
(T4) Taking over the control or allegiance of those who monitor international finance..."

*Guardian is their intelligence/special operations branch, currently known as OSA, Operation of Special Affairs.*

zoltron

I'll tell ya, Herb Ninja, have your folks already made their minds up about continuing to support her financially? I kinda hope they reconsider that because I have a feeling if she had