Herb Ninja

Ive asked myself that question many times zoltron. Honestly I think she'd go insane(ohh wait she already is insane), probably go to a homeless shelter at best, or maybe kill herself. Scientologists believe in an immortal spirit that changes bodies every lifetime, so she believes she will just be reborn as somebody else and start a new life with the same soul. I used to tell my parents, cut her ass off, now I just tell them, if she does bad things, punish her, if I do bad things, punish me. If we treat her like a child forever, she will never grow up. If we cut her off like an adult, she will be a hopeless child that could quite possibly just end her own life. Theres a long history of scientologists commiting suicide, mostly to escape their debts from scientology, to escape their harassment, or to try and be reborn so they can be better scientologists in the next lifetime.

Scientology Kills. I don't want my sister to be the next victim of theirs.

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zoltron

Yeah, no sh!t, I don't blame you there...no telling what might happen. Talk about your dilemnas...your proverbial rock & a hard place. I feel for your entire family, buddy. Well, I'll more than likely keep thinking about all this crap. My regards to your folks [& you of course]...

Herb Ninja

Thanks zoltron. Thanks to everyone for their support. Forget therapy, I got cheaptalk!

It could be worse, I know that. Not always do I realize it though...
Sometimes I feel like I should just give up on my sister, just let her go...
But those thoughts don't last long, not with all the great memories, this whole situation is really profound.
I mean, I could lose my sister forever to some crazy cult and their brainwashing.
Its too hard for me to just accept and get over, I love my sister, shes my only sibling, we have so much history. I don't blame her for doing all shes done, I hate to say it but its not her fault, she didn't do this to herself as much as it may look like it. I want to blame the scientologists that did this to her, but its not their fault either, they are just under this brainwashed impression that they are saving the world. I think it mostly stems from the creator of scientology, L. Ron. Hubbard, who did it for money, power, and to make himself appear as a demi-god. I also think this partly has to do with the IRS giving into all the lawsuits by scientology and declaring them a religion with tax exemption. His own son wrote an affidavit about it, how its all a big fraud, then "commited suicide" although it was was a very mysterious "suicide" I think he was probably murdered by hired assassins of his dad. Sometimes its like, I don't want to devote my life to saving my sister and others from this cult(seems like cult is too gentle of a word) but then I remember, id give my life for my sister. *crying right now* I just can't let her go, its too hard. I want her back. It hurts to see her this way. Shes practically deaf to my words, blind to the truth, its like everything I say avoids her. Ugh.... I'm rambling. I'll be back to vent later. Thanks for listening people. Appriciated. Peace, HN-

zoltron

What really surprises me is the IRS giving in to anybody. That's usually not their style. They're like the Mafia of the federal govt. Takes a lot of balls to f*ck with them cats...they pull a helluva lot of weight when it comes to doing whatever they damn well please. Very surprising. Well, if these dudes can intimidate the IRS, they're stronger & way more influential than the Mob & the CIA combined.

Herb Ninja

Scientology filed some 2500 lawsuits against the IRS. Lawsuits are one of the prime attack methods of scientology. Its creator had actually stated that they should NEVER defend scientology, always attack the attacker. You will notice that philosophy runs rampant in their cult.

Scientology is VERY influential, at least more then 90% of us think. They have about 100 other affiliated orginizations they created to do their dirty work under different disguises. Citizens Commisson on Human Rights, i'm not even going to begin to list all of them. Its insanity.

-Ted Gunderson, former head of the FBI's Los Angeles office, quoted about scientology in TIME May 6, 1991:

"In my opinion the church has one of the most effective intelligence operations in the U.S. rivaling even that of the FBI."

-Guardian Order 060971" seized in FBI authorized search of Scientology headquarters:

"The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are:
(T1) Depopularizing the enemy to the point of obliteration.
(T2) Taking over the control or allegiance of the heads or proprietors of all news media.
(T3) Taking over the control or allegiance of key political figures.
(T4) Taking over the control or allegiance of those who monitor international finance..."

*Guardian is their intelligence/special operations branch, currently known as OSA, Operation of Special Affairs.*

zoltron

I'll tell ya, Herb Ninja, have your folks already made their minds up about continuing to support her financially? I kinda hope they reconsider that because I have a feeling if she had

Herb Ninja

Yes, they have.

uhh. Finish the sentence cuz I dunno what your trying to say...

Smoke Rings

This whole thing sucks herb
Ive never had a loved one join a cult, so i would know how it feels but id imagine the pain is unberable. Just know that whatever happens, smokerings and zoltron here and all your cheaptalk friends will try to support you in whatever way possible. I think the best idea ive heard so far is a deprogramming session with at least 30 people your sister knows. They have her brainwashed pretty good, so i think that may be the only way out. What do your parents think of the deprogram idea.

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zoltron

Good lord, I just saw my post & I don't have a clue why I drifted off mid-sentence. Talk about some good pot! Holy sh!t! That must've been good weed...I know I finished that somewhere on here...somewhere. I haven't a clue why I did that or my son is drifting in here after bed or ???????...
Damn, I haven't gotten that stoned since the day weed was illegalized in 1937...it's been a long time, don't ya know??

Geeno

L Ron even tried to take over Moracco. Yes. Can you believe that?

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