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Old 08-30-2004, 12:58 AM   #31
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We need to get back on topic. The question wasn't about the corruption in the church, it was whether or not you believe in god. Not specifically the Christian, Muslim, or Jewish God, but any sort of God.

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Yes, father...while I'm believing whatever it is that you say oh mighty high priest/rabbipastor, I will now become your altar boy so you can diddle me up the bum...oooooo thank you father and THANK YOU GOD!!! your're all so wonderful)
Why are you so jaded? Did somebody have a bad experience?
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Old 08-30-2004, 12:58 AM   #32
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that is to take your money and control you by instilling fear into you.
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Control them to do what?
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Old 08-30-2004, 02:12 AM   #33
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ethics and morals should be common sense and that's all we need imo. I'm not knocking religion. It's what gets some people through hard times.. Not me though, I get myself through hard times with my family and my friends.

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Pretty much sums it up for me.

I do believe there is a higher being than humans, but not the "God" that is talked about in the bible.
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Old 08-30-2004, 02:15 AM   #34
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well lol funny this subject came up if you read my "Told the Rents" post im pretty sure I told you that part of the agreement of me getting to continue smoking is that I goto a private school this year to see how i do and what not, I still get to keep my ride, my friends, my freedom, my buds! anyways its a christian private school and I do beleive in God, I just, oh I dunno feel that they are a little extreme in the way they go about their daily lifes. I just couldnt uphold such a lifestyle in my opinion. I do respect the fact that they can have the faith they have and it is definatly a learning experience that I enjoy because Bible class is first period, towards the peak of my wake n bake. Infact two other kids in my class are moderate smokers, i.e once or twice every two or so weeks. Its funny :>
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Old 08-30-2004, 03:05 AM   #35
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We need to get back on topic. The question wasn't about the corruption in the church, it was whether or not you believe in god. Not specifically the Christian, Muslim, or Jewish God, but any sort of God.


Why are you so jaded? Did somebody have a bad experience?
1st of all, we don't "need" to get back on to anything. this is an internet forum where the subject sometimes goes in directions previously unseen by the original post/poster. So, kindly stop telling people what to do. This is not about MJ anyway, so it's as off topic as it gets.
I also find it amusing that you urge us to "get back on topic" and then ask questions which are "off topic". so--heed your own advice.

2nd. No, I did not have a bad experience. Me telling the truth about religion is the same as me talking about pro-MJ legislation. I have never been arrested for MJ (or anything else for that matter) but I can still see the incorrectness inherent in the legal system regarding MJ...AND regarding the church. so nya nya, open your eyes and see something that reaches farther than simply "your own experience" weiiski
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Old 08-30-2004, 03:07 AM   #36
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Control them to do what?
a. give them 10% of their income and
b. have control over their political views....yes, that was the intention even 2000 years ago.
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Old 08-30-2004, 03:32 AM   #37
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This topic was obviously created to start a flame war. I didn't read any of the 3 pages of this thread. If you want to talk about the church being corrupt and wrong and changing the bible to their liking then go read the Da Vinci Code to get all the facts about just how corrupt it is...which is very corrupt. However, that wasn't the question asked. I wont answer the question either. I hate people that go to extremes against or for religion. It is best not to talk about it at all. All talking does is incite fights. Keep your beliefs to yourself and please don't push them upon others. Even if you are just asked what your beliefs are it is easier to just keep them to yourself.
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It is best not to talk about it at all. All talking does is incite fights. Keep your beliefs to yourself and please don't push them upon others. Even if you are just asked what your beliefs are it is easier to just keep them to yourself.
then that holds true for you too. don't tell us to keep it to yourself, unless your going to keep your opinion about opnions to yourself.

I'm saying, if you're going to tell people to "keep it to yourself" then keep that opinion TO YOUR SELF...you dig?

however, because this is a forum, telling people to not talk about anything, or keep your beliefs to yourself, is absolutely ludicrous.

talk about anything and everything. I for one like hearing people's opinions.
if you dont like it, dont read it, and for damned sure don't post about it....
what you're advocating is fascism. And I ain't gonna play no fascist game.
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Old 08-30-2004, 03:55 AM   #39
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then that holds true for you too. don't tell us to keep it to yourself, unless your going to keep your opinion about opnions to yourself.

I'm saying, if you're going to tell people to "keep it to yourself" then keep that opinion TO YOUR SELF...you dig?

however, because this is a forum, telling people to not talk about anything, or keep your beliefs to yourself, is absolutely ludicrous.

talk about anything and everything. I for one like hearing people's opinions.
if you dont like it, dont read it, and for damned sure don't post about it....
what you're advocating is fascism. And I ain't gonna play no fascist game.
Honestly, when I read this reply I was ready to insult you in as many ways as possible but instead I will explain my post more clearly since you didn't understand it.

I said keep your RELIGIOUS beliefs to yoursef. Not all beliefs. In fact, I love hearing other people's opinions on most topics but the topic of religion ALWAYS starts fights.

And yes I am telling you to keep your religious beliefs to yourself. Call me a fascist all you want. You can eat me. Like I said I didn't read it but I damn sure posted about it and I'm right about everything I posted. I may sound fascist to you but at least I'm not an extremist douchebag like yourself...you dig?
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Old 08-30-2004, 04:48 AM   #40
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Thread closed.

Is it so hard to be civil to each other? Really?

Ernesto, like you said, this is just an internet forum. Control your anger a bit, would ya? sjtfly, if you don't like the thread, don't read it, but don't tell people to keep their beliefs to themselves, its not your place. If you don't wanna hear someone's opinion, it is easily avoided, including using the "Ignore" feature in the User CP.
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