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jonby17

i dont know off hand where its found in the bible but its in there God tells us to follow the laws of the land But what i think and sincerly believe is that if the law is unjust that its all right to ignore it . just like when david was thrown in the lions den for not following the laws of the land and refused to worship a false idol. I think that when it all comes down to it we arent sinning if were not hurting anyone. WHAT DO U THINK?

 

sohigh1605

the bible is a book...written to make people live how others want or fear hellfire, live your life with the morals you want, not the ones that have been handed down to you by sheep.

if i had to think about "would god get mad if i did this" before everything i did i would rather not live at all
...just my opinion

suede

There are right,and wrong ways to live .We see and experience them every day.The King James version is just one popular instruction manual for a good way to live.It doesn't mean one is a sheep because he chooses that way b.s.

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Daniel

David was not in the lion's den.

QUOTE:
I think that when it all comes down to it we arent sinning if were not hurting anyone.
UNQUOTE

Biblically, you would be incorrect. Jesus even said that if you looked upon somebody with lust, you are committing adultry in your heart. No harm, but a sin.

Biblically, you showed an interesting point. God made sure that when Daniel did follow "God's" law and not man's, God protected him.

Suede calling the Bible an instruction manual on life is exactly how I have heard it called in many christian circles.

How do Christian's believe in the Bible when it is full of contradictions, confusion and even plain weird stuff?

I was going to write an answer, but I would like to hear from others on it.

jonby17

ok what im saying is that im not the most hard core bible thumpin person on earth to tell the truth i havent even been to church in 3 or 4 years . im simply saying that if mans law is unjust then do u think God will forgive some one for breaking it?i think he would .the thing about the bible is that it is a book written by man.Do u think that every person that wrote a pat in the bible put EXACTLY what God told them to put ?no. PLus it probably lost a lot of the ogiginal text and meaning while it was getting switched from one language to another.What im basically getting at is that God is loving and understanding and u shouldnt take the bible word 4 word.do what your heart tells u is right and u will go to heaven. and since marijuana hurts no one and was created by God then there is nothing wrong with it.

 

Daniel

Q:
im simply saying that if mans law is unjust then do u think God will forgive some one for breaking it?
U:

Depends on your school of thought. If you are in the Christian Camp (excluding Catholic's, cause they have some rules that I don't understand at all) there isn't a sin that cannot be forgiven if you trust and sincerely believe that the debt is already paid. This is the whole idea behind Christianity. If you are a Jewish, there are other ways that you can take care of your sins.

Q:
do what your heart tells u is right and u will go to heaven
U:

Dangerous thinking. Not just spiritually, but ethically. Our hearts are not as good as we think they are. We do things everyday that we know is wrong, but we continue to do them. What part of "Thou Shalt not" don't we understand?

Hitler thought he was right in his heart. Ya think he could have made it to heaven? Tim McVeigh is on his last few days alive. He killed a lot of people. He still has no regret and believes that he was right. He won't even say that he is sorry....Will he be forgiven? I'm not God, so I cannot say. Can he be forgiven? Yes, in both my opinion, and biblically.

Q:
and since marijuana hurts no one and was created by God then there is nothing wrong with it.
U:

I wrote the Billy Graham Evangelical Assocation for advice concerning the use of Marijuana and Christianity (for a different thread) a few weeks ago just to see what they have to say... Here was what I got back:

"Thank you for corresponding with us. It is good to know that you were able to
locate us.

We appreciate your question about smoking marijuana. While the Bible does not
mention marijuana specifically, it gives a number of general principles that
would condemn its use.

First, the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. First Corinthians 3:16-17
(NKJV) states, "Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the
Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will
destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are." We are
enclosing an article highlighting some of the many dangers of smoking
marijuana. Certainly, the use of any substance that is known to cause damage
to the body must be seen by God as defiling His temple.

Second, we should remember Paul's admonition: "Therefore, whether you eat or
drink, or whatever you do, do it all to the glory of God" (1 Corinthians
10:31). Can anyone honestly say that smoking marijuana is to the glory of
God?

Third, we are to be an example to others. Our lives might be the only Bible
that an unsaved person will ever read.

Fourth, the Bible strictly commands us not to do anything which would dull our
minds or make us lose control of our moral judgments. This is clearly seen,
for example, in the statements of the Bible against drunkenness. "Do not get
drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit"
(Ephesians 5:18, NIV). The Bible makes it clear that any drug which can
distort one's judgment is wrong and sinful."

Any thoughts to that?

jonby17

i never thought of a lot of the points u made. ill be the first to admit that ive done som wrong things that i knew in my heart to be wrong.honestly i dont even know any more do u think pot is a hell worthy trespass?

Daniel

In my opinion, biblically, any sin is worthy of Hell fire. I don't believe in this purgatory crap. You are either forgiven for all, or none. The nice part about it though, biblically, you are in control of it. It is just a gift that has to be taken.

"Because of Grace you are saved, through faith and that not of yourself. It is a gift of God, not of works, least any man should boast" (from my brain, right around Eph 2:8 though)

Meaning... There is nothing you can do to "earn" your right into heaven. In the same way, there is no way to "pay off" a sin.

"For there is therefore, now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" (Rom 8-1)

Meaning, if you are in Christ (if you don't know if you are or not, you aren't) you are going to be fine as far as what the bible says.


What do you believe in? Answer it honestly either on here or to yourself.

Does your life follow what you believe? If not, your fooling yourself and trying to justify your behavior. (Hey, I do it too) The real hard part is discerning what you really believe.

Pastor Dan

Daniel

Q:
do what your heart tells u is right and u will go to heaven
U:

I had to follow up on this.

I gave you the last answer from a non-Christian point of view. From a Christian side, what you say has merit.

There are 3 parts of the Trinity. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. That last one, the Holy Spirit is something that many Christians ignore and don't even understand. It is the Spirit of the Lord inside you. As a Christian, if you follow how that Spirit guides you, (do what your heart tells you) you won't be sinning. Figuring out if something is right or wrong is the Sprit's job. Again though, we usually follow the flesh and not the Spirit. Make sense?

mirage

i still giggle over how x-tains still call god father or son ie the male aspect, when will they learn god has no gender