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glorious · 01-25-2008, 10:15 PM

Scientology is "wanna-be Buddhism"

steakii · 01-25-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by glorious

Scientology is "wanna-be Buddhism"

No its not. Not at all. Its a way to steal money from dumb people legally.

glorious · 01-25-2008, 11:54 PM

From wikipedia: "Hubbard later characterized Scientology as an "applied religious philosophy""

All I meant by that is in the most general sense, scientology is supposed to be more of a philosophy than a religion, which uses karma as a way to obtain "enlightenment" similar to Buddhism. I realize that Scientology is kind of a joke and there is a lot of controversy surrounding it, that's why I called it "wanna-be Buddhism."

"In asserting that Scientology is a religion, Hubbard most often compared Scientology to Buddhism. In his "Minister's Course", Hubbard mistakenly asserts that philosophy and religion are the same thing, and the "applied religious philosophy" recruiting phrase repeats this mistake. While Buddhism and Scientology may appear to be similar philosophies, the similarities are superficial [Kent, 1991]. As a teenager, Hubbard travelled to the Orient [ Miller ], which provided grist for a storyteller's later claims. As Hubbard's references to Buddhism are tallied, it becomes clear that Hubbard understanding was superficial."

The Scientology / Dianetics Comparative Theology Page

SmasheR · 01-26-2008, 12:03 AM

Haha I love when he just starts laughing for no reason several times in the vid.

steakii · 01-26-2008, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorious

From wikipedia: "Hubbard later characterized Scientology as an "applied religious philosophy""

All I meant by that is in the most general sense, scientology is supposed to be more of a philosophy than a religion, which uses karma as a way to obtain "enlightenment" similar to Buddhism. I realize that Scientology is kind of a joke and there is a lot of controversy surrounding it, that's why I called it "wanna-be Buddhism."

"In asserting that Scientology is a religion, Hubbard most often compared Scientology to Buddhism. In his "Minister's Course", Hubbard mistakenly asserts that philosophy and religion are the same thing, and the "applied religious philosophy" recruiting phrase repeats this mistake. While Buddhism and Scientology may appear to be similar philosophies, the similarities are superficial [Kent, 1991]. As a teenager, Hubbard travelled to the Orient [ Miller ], which provided grist for a storyteller's later claims. As Hubbard's references to Buddhism are tallied, it becomes clear that Hubbard understanding was superficial."

The Scientology / Dianetics Comparative Theology Page

Alright you got me on that one. You win.

Logos · 01-26-2008, 03:04 AM

Tom is too clownish to take seriously, they should have had John Travolta do it instead, he's a much better actor when it comes to being serious.

Besides, he actually played in a movie based on a Hubbard book...

vern · 01-26-2008, 03:42 AM

First time I went to the Scienctology website, I thought to myself how much it looked like a commercial site....They actually bought a building right next to my college.

FunkySkunky · 01-26-2008, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vern

First time I went to the Scienctology website, I thought to myself how much it looked like a commercial site....They actually bought a building right next to my college.

Haha, you're totally right.

Buzzby · 01-26-2008, 06:09 AM

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They actually bought a building right next to my college.

Scientologists have pretty much taken over Tampa, FL. It's like an occupied city.

[EDIT]Er.... Make that Clearwater, but the whole Tampa Bay area is overrun with them.

Herblivion · 01-26-2008, 08:06 PM

I have always said that people are free to believe in what they want...but when a cult like this starts threatening critics, following people, and charging money for salvation I begin to get a little worried. Not to mention its disturbing past with "Operation Snow White"

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Operation Snow White was the Church of Scientology's name for a project during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members; the single largest infiltration of the United States government in history with up to 5,000 covert agents. This was also the operation that exposed 'Operation Freakout', due to the fact that this was the case that brought the government into investigation on the Church.[1][2]
Under this program, Scientology operatives committed infiltration, wiretapping, and theft of documents in government offices, most notably those of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. Eleven highly-placed Church executives, including Mary Sue Hubbard (wife of founder L. Ron Hubbard and second-in-command of the organization), pled guilty or were convicted in federal court of obstructing justice, burglary of government offices, and theft of documents and government property. The case was United States vs. Mary Sue Hubbard et al., 493 F. Supp. 209 (D.D.C. 1979).

-Wikipedia (I looked it up in other sources too so don't start a whole wikipedia isn't accurate schpeel please)

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glorious Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 267 Grams: 4,793.45 Groans: 1 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Thanks: 84 Thanked 122 Times in 67 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	From wikipedia: "Hubbard later characterized Scientology as an "applied religious philosophy"" All I meant by that is in the most general sense, scientology is supposed to be more of a philosophy than a religion, which uses karma as a way to obtain "enlightenment" similar to Buddhism. I realize that Scientology is kind of a joke and there is a lot of controversy surrounding it, that's why I called it "wanna-be Buddhism." "In asserting that Scientology is a religion, Hubbard most often compared Scientology to Buddhism. In his "Minister's Course", Hubbard mistakenly asserts that philosophy and religion are the same thing, and the "applied religious philosophy" recruiting phrase repeats this mistake. While Buddhism and Scientology may appear to be similar philosophies, the similarities are superficial [Kent, 1991]. As a teenager, Hubbard travelled to the Orient [ Miller ], which provided grist for a storyteller's later claims. As Hubbard's references to Buddhism are tallied, it becomes clear that Hubbard understanding was superficial." The Scientology / Dianetics Comparative Theology Page

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