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Perhaps we will never know because that info is top secret and none of us have the clearance to view let alone understand it...

I know of one sure fire way to find out the truth, but it's a suggestion I'd bet all that money you are talking about that no one would take, not to mention, if they won the bet, they would still be dead...

It's the only way to know for sure.

Someday either science will prove or disprove God till then, we will just have to keep arguing our points till we are simply tired of doing so.

I sometimes wonder if the not knowing isn't by design as well...

Peace and Love

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Dark

So instead of searching for the logical answer, you put all your faith on the easiest answer, and the hardest to prove..God. You think it's so crazy that those answers aren't answered yet by evolution, well I find it crazy that you put God as the answer to all of them. It really doesn't use any logic to put all your faith in one answer, and then follow it blindly because you have faith that it's true.

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cepheus

The test of a theory is if you can use it to predict things that will happen, given certain initial conditions. So far neither evolution nor grand design does that. Also, your first 5 questions have nothing to do with the rest of them. The beginning of the universe, so far, is a much different topic to ponder than how life began on Planet Earth. Also, please don't refer to evolution as "pagan." That term refers to a bunch of ancient religions that are focused around nature. They predated the theory of evolution by thousands of years and have nothing to do with it.

They have yet to be answered by anyone, but at least evolutionists are trying, unlike creationists who sit on their pedestal and chastise the rest of us as ignorant dummies. If only you guys knew how foolish you look from our side.

contishface

The universe and all of its contents; matter, space, and the physical laws that govern them , was created about 13 or 14 billion years ago by what scientists call "the big bang." At this point in time, all energy and matter in the universe was concentrated into one spot of infinite destiny. The universe has been expanding and evolving since this time. The organizing you keep referring to is due to the affect of general relativity and the laws physics.

The creation of life on earth is widely beleived to be around 2-4 billion years ago through abiogenesis, which refers to a process where life is born from non-life. There are different models of abiogenesis, all of which suggest that life on earth was formed from the basic chemicals, methane, amonia, water, hydrogen sulfide, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and phosphate.

On Earth: 2-4 billion years ago. Somewhere on the planet, possibly on the shore lines of oceans. Because the conditions were right. Through evolution.

Dunno. The fossil evidence we have now dates sexual reproduction back at least 1 billion years ago from eukaryotes from the a point in history known as the stenian period.

Reproduction is what they call an evolutionary stable strategy, or "ESS". Sexual reproduction and increasing the numbers in a species actually increases the chance of survival because there a lesser chance of contracting disease and of being overpowered by another species.

I'm not sure, but are you comparing how DNA works to how Language works, and saying they are similar processes? I find this rather funny. Of course recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books. But that doesn't mean recombining the genetic code wont produce diverse qualities, as a matter of fact it will.

No.

Good question. This one is still heavily debated by scientists.

All of these questions are easily answered with one word, evolution, its a natural process.

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420budz

::::::::::::::::The universe and all of its contents; matter, space, and the physical laws that govern them , was created about 13 or 14 billion years ago by what scientists call "the big bang." At this point in time, all energy and matter in the universe was concentrated into one spot of infinite destiny. The universe has been expanding and evolving since this time. The organizing you keep referring to is due to the affect of general relativity and the laws physics.::::::::::::::


okay now i see that science expresses the universe in 5 terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: "In the beginning [thats time] God created [thats His power] the heaven [thats space] and the earth [thats matter]....And the Spirit of God moved [thats motion] upon the face of the waters" The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.

 

contishface

The first chapter of Genesis also says the earth was created in 6 days. It seems like the list of things that god creates in these 6 days are just the acting out of physical laws, ones that might easily be interpreted as acts of god. Just becasue something is old doesnt make it credible. In my opinion the bible is a childish folk story. Albeit a pretty nice story, religion is just a crutch. It's something that helps people deal with the stresses and mysteries of going through life. I'm all for the crutches in life that dont harm us. Religion definatly harms us.

420budz

yeah but i see Creation by God the most sensible answer to our universe.
Some believe in the "Big Bang" theory...but i have never seen anything that goes "bang" create something as beautiful as the Earth. only thing that things that go "bang" do is destroy in one way or another whether it be a gun or dynamite. but some believe that the universe was nothing but a tiny tiny tiny tiny piece of dust or matter. but if you take an air tight jar and put a piece of dust in it and leave it for 10 years what will it turn to? nothing. just that same piece of dust in the same jar. so if we could wait a million years with the jar unbroken and still intact...what is left in there? the same piece of matter that never expanded. just my opinions on these subjects

contishface

To each his own i guess. I see creation by god a senseless answer. I see the big theory as the most sensible and logical explanation. There is no factual evidence of an actual Creator God in all of history, only made up myths.

cepheus

That's not surprising. But if you had been alive at the birth of our universe and you saw all the matter and energy that currently exists suddenly eject from the singularity, then you sat around for billions of years, that's exactly what you would have seen. Although technically you wouldn't have seen anything till about 300,000 years after the beginning because that's when light began.


Just out of curiosity, 420budz, what is your scientific background? Some of the stuff you say doesn't make sense to anyone who knows about physics and astronomy. The universe didn't start as a piece of dust.

All the matter and energy that currently exists was compacted into a infinitely small point called the singularity (we know such entities exist because one is at the center of every black hole). For some still unknown reason, that singularity began a super rapid expansion. It would look like an unimaginably incredible explosion to us, but really it wasn't a "bang," it was just the beginning of the expansion of space-time. As one of my old astronomy professors used to say "The big bang wasn't an explosion, it's something that is still happening today."

There are still many unanswered questions regarding the big bang. And occasionally new research incites alterations to the current model. That doesn't mean it's bogus. It does mean that there are still a lot of exciting discoveries to be made.

cepheus

Arguing by analogy. It's many Christians' favorite way to argue. And I agree that it's funny.