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Old 02-01-2008, 01:30 AM   #1
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Question A question for the religious turned atheist.

I find that a lot of the people here who profess atheism came from a religious background, and the most common religions I see listed are Catholic and Jehovah's Witnesses.

I'm sort of curious which religious sects produce the most atheists.

I wasn't raised with any particular religious doctrines, and would probably claim that I was Agnostic for most of my life.

If you find that you are atheist and have no religious upbringing, I'd like to hear what you have to say as well.

In case you are curious why I'm asking so many questions, I'm simply trying to better understand the nature of atheism simply to broaden my own perspectives.

Thanks in advance for your input...

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Old 02-05-2008, 04:22 AM   #2
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truly i can say that i am a christian....and i know that i have been touched, blessed, and helped by God in every aspect of my life. So i start to wonder how those who at one time worshipped God stopped believing or doubting.

let me try to explain this a lil deeper....

A man and his son went to buy a heater for their 1 bedroom apartment building. they found what they were looking for and brought it home immediately. the heater was constructed with a "child safety" cage on it. the man told his son "since theres a cage on there i dont have to worry about any accidents." and the manufacturer said that the cage would keep all childrens toys, fingers etc. from touching the heater itself." well one day the little boy decided that he would play around the heater since he thought it was turned off. his finger was actually smaller than the cage holes and when he touched the hot heater, he was burned of course. in a reaction he jerked back and told his dad. the dad called the manufacturer and had him come over. both the manufacturer and the father insisted that the little boy couldnt have possibly been burned because this was a "child safe" heater and there was no evidence that he had been burned. (no blister...just a little red.)

the point of this story is that no matter who told the little boy theres no way he could have been burned, he knew that he had without a doubt been burned. So those who have really felt Gods love will have no doubts about it no matter who says what or what science is revealed. So i dont see how you could ever have doubts and turn away from Him.

as a matter of fact, the apostles in the Bible knew they had been in the presence of God through Jesus. they believed it so strongly they refused to doubt even when threatened with death.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:27 AM   #3
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Well, im not officially atheist yet, im still exploring, but i was raised methodist, and i thought it was really stupid, and stopped praying and going to chruch, im just now starting to explore religion and atheism so far makes the most sense to me.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:38 AM   #4
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I would call myself a borderline Atheist-Agnostic. I can't claim to have absolute knowledge of something that is inherently not quantifiable, however I can say that I believe that the God of Abraham is not the real god at all if there is one (or many), at least not in the way he's described in the Torah/Bible/Quran (that's right folks, same God different name). I could say why, but that's a topic for another thread, and another time. I wasn't raised on a particular religion, although my father is Jewish and my mother Christian (Baptist, I believe) and I did go to Christian summer camps a few times.

Also, I don't particularly believe in the Hindu gods either, no real evidence there (not in the way I do about the Abrahamic religions.

And 420budz, being willing to die for a cause doesn't make it true. Islamic extremists are willing to die for their cause, to name one. And for some of them, their cause is simply to bring down "the american empire."
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:44 AM   #5
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nah im simply saying, how could someone who claimed to have felt Gods love and worshipped Him turn around? this is what keeps me faithful in Him. because i believe without a doubt that God loves me and helps me in life. and i truly believe i am a child of God
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:50 AM   #6
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One can train the mind to feel just about anything. It's rather simple, really.
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:07 AM   #7
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i dont believe you could make me feel as if i was in pain. unless you physically inflicted pain upon me.
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There are people with Pain Disorders who feel pain with a lack of physical stimuli, that's purely a function of their brains. And whatever can be done or maintained through the subconscious or unconscious minds can be manipulated from the conscious one.
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::The disorder may begin at any age, and more women than men seem to experience it (APA, 2000). This disorder often occurs after an accident or during an illness that has caused genuine pain, which then takes a life of its own.::


after an accident, or during an illness (even strepthroat causes some pain) that causes genuine pain. (real pain) and afterwards they never heal because it takes a "life of its own."

so something must have happened which caused the pain in the first place.
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well to reply from the beginning i am also from a religeous backround, i attended church until age 12 maybe 2 times a week. i have 2 uncles that are one a pastor and the other a ordained southern baptist minister...

i believed strongly until i started looking into other beliefs, this is where it all began. i have found over 4000 recognized organized religeons in the world and not all of them are even close to being the same. so i wondered why we as americans are so egotistical the believe that we are the right one, the odds of one of our mainstream beliefs being right are maybe what 10 out of 4000 not good betting odds i said.

then i got heavily into science and found that i was completley shocked, it was like a smack in the face... you can see on the discovery channel where they proved newtons law of relativity which in inteslf proves evolution. its called natural selection, the stronges survive and evolve to its enviroment. you see it in nature and in the humane race every day.

then i compared religeon to science and found that over the years everything we couldnt understand or explain or things we wanted to be bad we attributed to a god of some kind. we dont what happened, must have been god. i know it sounds funny but its true..

so over the years many of these things have been found out through science to be false and slowly we are coming out of this god age ang actually figuring things out to be as they really are...

i mean the beliefs say this world is roughly 6000 years old.. this meaning the dinosaurs didnt exist, the shroud of turin that was supposed to be wrapped, 2000 years old yet when it was carbon dated it was but 700 years old.

so after all of that ill look to science to see whats gonna happen but the bible as far as i can see is what happened a long time ago, the only reason some say it predicts the futre is because its not the future its predicting its mistakes, one we dont learn from and are doomed to repeat again and again. things never change just the people in the situations, read it, it goes back as long as we were alive to make them, i feel that if we were really all made in gods eyes, we would have been perfect and not have free will, free will makes us the sinners we are if we didnt want we would never sin. but free will also drives the need to know and thats what is killing religeon now, we want to know and we are finding out and the religous comunity hates the science community for this because they totally deny their answers are right yet they are the only ones with any facts....


you be the judge. o and how this went from god to pain and mental illness ill never know... no more tokin while writting...lmao
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