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in a society like we live in today god is not see at a deity but as this:

example 1/1: GOD = MONEY

i am sorry, god is the richest mofo on the planet. we goto church, listen to his word, eat his flesh and drink his blood. then give him our money. which i think is not cool. we should not have to give our money to anyone, but i know we are not giving it to god, we are giving it to the church. but if they were pure religous people they would be happy in the riches of god.

for the bibles says (not in these words) that nothing on earth, not even all the money, can compare to the riches of heaven.

oh well, our world taints everything, we are the masters and f*cking things up. humans, master consumers. we cant even keep a thing like god, "good".

but that brings up more questions, is there a god, what is god. i believe there is a someone, who i am not sure. but there are to many things in this life for there not to be something after it when we die.

death is a second living, a awakening to a new life.

peace,

(i had no point to cross, just felt like ranting)

 

Ganjx

"we should not have to give our money to anyone, but i know we are not giving it to god, we are giving it to the church. but if they were pure religous people they would be happy in the riches of god."

first off, religion is what it is. an institutionalized group of people that blindly follow god; that is, in the dark. there's nothing impure about that, just dark. an enlightened follower of god leans toward spirituality.

"oh well, our world taints everything, we are the masters and f*cking things up. humans, master consumers. we cant even keep a thing like god, "good"."

this is not a healthy analysis. dont get me wrong...for many years, i too, attributed world calamities to the human race and his imperfection. but that is wrong. a perfect god cannot create an imperfect creature. just as a calculative human cannot create an imperfect calculator. the true culprit is the consensus. we render ourselves imperfect because of our steadfast belief that we are imperfect. if we can shift the collective consciences to the latter, our world would be much different.

"but that brings up more questions, is there a god, what is god. i believe there is a someone, who i am not sure. but there are to many things in this life for there not to be something after it when we die."

i offer you this:
you say you "believe there is someone" but let me correct you by saying that you KNOW there is someone. let me offer you a little insight into who i think that someone is. i think that someone is the awesome everything that is the universe. all knowing, and infinite. god is the good, and the evil. for the good could not be without the evil. its a divine dichotomy that cannot exist in part, but in full division.

to understand the purpose of life you must first understand what it is like to be god. this can be best illustrated by the story of adam and eve. two beings...living a utopia, a paradise, yet they are oblivious to this prestigious lifestyle because theyve never known of any other. so they dared to delve into the tree of knowledge. she ate the apple, yadda yadda and so it is written. this analogy was god's answer to the situation at hand. god was bored in his all knowing essence so he sought to experience it. in order for this to work there needed to be a separate dimension in which we could experience our knowledge first hand. but first we must forget what we know, otherwise, what the hell is the point? i already know a hot stove top will burn my hand why the f*ck would i wanna touch it? i believe there is a quote in the bible, something like "father, why hast tho forsaken me". this illustrates quite well how our relationship with god works. you tell him what you want...and he will give it to you, but in exchange you must sacrifice a bit of 'knowingness' otherwise the experience will be cheapened. see, we dont remember much of this. we feel forsaken because we forgot that we chose the life of a miserable human and all his problems. rest assure you can revise the arrangement at any time. im living proof.

heres another extraordinary thing about this process: the awesomeness of god is the result of our existence. i believe jesus was quoted as saying "i am nothing without the father, for he is nothing without me" or something to that extent. it is the experiences we have brought to god that has made her as big and powerful as she is. think of it this way...we are far greater machines than your every day computer. after all, we created it. but observe its superior calculative skill! its nothing we couldnt do in our head...yet our computers amplify our ability to calculate 10,000 times over. further, our lives are now completely dependent on computers! did we not father computers into this world? why is it we depend upon them? jesus has come to a provocative conclusion. well kids, gotta go...but before i do let me reiterate my initial statement:

you say you "believe there is someone" but let me correct you by saying that you KNOW there is someone.

case and point:

an insecure hypothesis:
"i believe there is a someone, who i am not sure. but there are to many things in this life for there not to be something after it when we die."

a brilliant conclusion:
"death is a second living, a awakening to a new life."

bonghits4christ

wait, you think that death could be made up by most people? So if noone ever knew that pain was a response after getting hurt, if we didn't believe in it as a collective body, we wouldn't feel pain? I don't know thats a crazy idea, (but its a pretty good one)..... anyway it seems like you think Christianity is just trying to deprive you of your longevity. The Christians I know don't live thinking that we are just waiting around til we get to heaven. I think Ganjx, you have some interesting thoughts on life, the posts you put up on that " devil made me do it" was cool I can relate to that post about believing you are whatever you think you are, man that's biblical. I think most Christians I know believe that we should live a long life and that its in God's will for us to live a good life here on earth. All I know is that I am going to live a grip of years more in order for me to carry out a cool enough will in God's eyes. But it's all good if I die. I'll be in heaven travelling at the speed of thought with the most high. Anyway.... I'm rambling

Rusty_Cage

the problem with declaring that the Bable contains the words of God is that the scripture itself has been interpretted into so many languages and so many times throughout these thousands of years that its likely that the context now isnt even close to what it might have been two thousand years ago.

Ganjx

"wait, you think that death could be made up by most people? So if noone ever knew that pain was a response after getting hurt, if we didn't believe in it as a collective body, we wouldn't feel pain?"

youve got it! i was speaking of death by "natural causes", although, this too, could be applied. do you feel the pain when you are in shock? normally you welcome pain. you oblige the pain because you dont get the chance to experience it in the realm of the absolute (the all knowing). every now and then you intuitively anticipate a pain too heavy for you to bear, so you numb it...and ultimately refuse to experience it. know this: it is in your capacity to control the pain you experience at will.

it is quite the evolved being to elude what weve come to know as "certain death" such as a bullet in the head (note that it has been done). however, a being of this nature usually isnt concerned with avoiding any such "death" for he knows that "life" and "death" are but one revolving door.

"it seems like you think Christianity is just trying to deprive you of your longevity."

:gasp: i wouldnt dare say such a thing! seriously though...

my untimely death will come about by my own repercussive infliction. this is avoidable by everyone, but personally im just not that interested. why pursue longevity when i already have eternity?

"Ganjx, you have some interesting thoughts on life, the posts you put up on that " devil made me do it" was cool I can relate to that post about believing you are whatever you think you are, man that's biblical."

of course you can relate, we can all relate to truth. the first mistake religious people make is where they believe in god rather than know god. some may claim they know god, yet they curse his "children" to the fiery pits of hell in the name of love. this is a fallacy fabricated by belief. to believe is to place faith in. if not a blind faith, a faith that is driven by a limited amount of uncertainty. this can be very disappointing. one could start to fear their faith is misplaced...and fear, my friend, is our number one enemy. but god bless it! for without it we would know no love. so let those who believe do so wholeheartedly. however, it is my personal goal to give knowledge to the majority (that is, the consensus).

im glad you find my words intriguing that is my inspiration.

"All I know is that I am going to live a grip of years more in order for me to carry out a cool enough will in God's eyes."

you know this to be true? so be it.

"the problem with declaring that the Bable contains the words of God is that the scripture itself has been interpretted into so many languages and so many times throughout these thousands of years that its likely that the context now isnt even close to what it might have been two thousand years ago."

no one has challenged the corruption of the bible; its been overstated. the original question was in regards to the bible in its infancy. we all hold our own truths that which weve allowed god to tell us. beings in the realm of experience are filters. this is why i said that jesus' word is the closest to god's word as of yet. so far, his receptive filter has not been matched. some have come close, but most filters are extremely "thickheaded" and "dense". ever wonder where those expressions came from?

 

SouthernSmoker

dude like seriously bottom line here is the bible is full of **** in everyones opinion, except for bonghits4christ, so I say that we all agree that we put religon on the back burner, and dont let a lil stupid thing get in between our friendships. ahhh i feel like martha stuward or something now haha

suede

ROFand it's a looooooong scroll to the top....the whole thread reads like a general belief thread,cept Ganjx's trip thru the matrix:The King James version of the "HolyBible"has been translated to death.All that's left is interpretation.!Its teachings,with all its revisions,and translations,still remain good advise for life, (as we know it ). my 7gm. worth. b.s.

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Rennoch

please tell me you looked at the site i sent ya. the "matrix" theroum, has been around amongst various societies since about 800b.c. it did not come about (cept for the techie bit) in 1999a.d.

also, Carl Gustav Jung spoke of similar processes of the mind, and of course the possibility of of what hermetics beleived pretty much since the early days, "consensual reality."

to label statements in such a cliche manner, limits the spectrum of examination, because many folks will merely view them as an acid trip while watching the movie and pay them no mind or worse, ridicule them.

*sighs* i really must begin posting book links.....

suede

But I will and I'll be back

budhawk

well now lets all sing a hymn,,,,,,,,,,

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