Wanderlust

I was an atheist, and then I started smoking pot. It expanded my perspective and mind, and now I believe that there's some sort of higher being or power. Smoking marijuana is an intensely spiritual experience-it makes you forget humanities foolish social garbage and allows those who find it to see the world as it is. When you sober up, the discovery is gone but that knowledge is still there.

When I'm smoking, it seems incredibly illogical to me that there should be no higher power. The world is too astonishing, some things are just too coincidental.

Am I crazy?

Or does anyone understand what I'm attempting to say?

Th3Preacher

You are not crazy, I have been an atheist for awhile since about 4th grade in 9th now(went to a catholic elementary and middle school) but thinking about it being out in nature, I don't know I do not necessarily believe that Jesus is the one and we go to heaven or hell but I think there is something out there...

WeedGod

Aren't there age limits at this forum?

Trocisp

Yes.

If you read when you signed up it's 13. Just like every other vB site in the world.

A persons age is not indicative of their status or value in a community. You simply don't like someone because they're younger than you? How... mature.


And to ilovebertwalker - the universe is just too large to be the result of the big bang? How so?

Do you realize that the statement is nonsensical?

Wanderlust

I totally know what you mean.

ilovealbertwalker

i was never atheist. i just fell away from god. and started to take my life in my own hands. until i was 18 i started see whats going on , i always knew but decided to ignore it. now more than even i use weed or spiritual use. i dont think that weed is wrong either. its natural. and this universe is way to large to have been just been made by a big bang thats silly. i tell you there is a god. hes there with you. my cousin said that god gave him to my aunt when he was a baby. mind you he was 2. keep smoking read the bible haha

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Th3Preacher

Maybe. Don't tell anyone

WeedGod

Too late. I already did.

lemonflavepapes

nornerator

Marijuana is undoubtedly a "spiritual" aid or development tool. I use it all the time to gain insight on an issue. Thinking rationally while high can be a creative and insightful experience into different aspects of life. It allows a person to think "meta" about processes, social networks, etc which does bring a lot of insight.

However I am an atheist, and I do not think the marijuana experience has ever made me feel like there was a greater power. Although I can see how those who do believe could use it in such a way as to strengthen that relationship.

Furthermore, the poem above, was nicely written, but the argument that is made about some things being experiential only and not able to be measured is not the best argument for theism. What it comes down to is saying that the mind is not just the brain, but something else, something beyond measurement, essentially saying that there is a spirit. This is unreasonable because we can detect things happening in the brain, and we don't see god fooling around up there. Additionally, the instruments that we have can sense in many more senses than our bodies have, we can sense a whole heck of a lot, UV, Infrared, Radio Waves, Atomic Absorption, nuclear magnetic resonance, mass spectrometry, high pressure liquid chromatography, radioactive decay, SONAR, and many more. Certainly if this higher power existed that actually influenced anything at all in our universe that can affect us in anyway, could have been measured. If god showed up in the measurements, god would have to be true. God just doesn't show up.