dedbr

Freedom of religion. How far should it go? Do polygamists have the right, that is guaranteed to all of us, to practice their religion as they see fit? Or is an intervention by other's, (law enforcement), something that you agree with?

If that is your religion, should the children also have the freedom to choose if they want to leave or not? That is the crux, isn't it? Child abuse? Or is this an example of the Christian right trying to squash any who have a different view of life and how to live it?

I wonder just why these people are being subjected to all this hatred from the public? 2 or 3 girls claiming rape and child abuse of course have an ax to grind because they think they are helping others. But what if those "others" don't want or need the help offered by supposed do-gooders? Should we leave them to their own devices?

Freedom of religion. Do we really have it in this country, or is it slowly being eroded by the supposed "right" religion, christianity?


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If they're not breaking laws, they should be left alone. However if they're having sex with minors, forcing people into relationships, etc - there should be intervention.

Your freedom of religion goes to the line of the law. Marry as many women as you please (Any laws against polygamist are idiotic, imo), but don't touch an underage girl. Simple.

dedbr

But Tro, this isn't child abuse or forced marriages to them. This is the way they practice their religion. To most of them, this is a happy, clean way of life. They shun the outside world to live the way they want to.

You said as far as you were concerned, any laws againt polygamy are stupid. If this is the way polygamy has been practiced for over a hundred years, then these people are sure they are living the good religious life that they need to reap their reward in heaven. To them, we are the ones who are wrong.

Where does freedom of religion end? I don't think it should include murder or human sacrifice, but why oh why do we need to stick our collective noses into something that we're not going to change?

A polygamist compound was raided in the fifties. Thirty some men were arrested for polygamy and child abuse. The end result? Two years later all the men and women had resumed their polygamist life style, and that included the children. Nothing was accomplished. Two years of wasted effort to come back to square one.

These people seem to be happy. Don't you think we should just leave them alone?


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5drive

I think you have to take each situation on its own merits or horrors. If parents and/or authority figures raise their kids by isolating them from other ideas and ways of life, and pound into them (with fear and punishment) that their way is 'the only way', IMO you're no longer raising kids but brainwashing them. The people being raised to be suicide bombers are perfectly happy with their lot in life too. "Should we leave them to their own devices?"

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I must say it bothers me that the government just went in and snatched up over 400 children, and come to find out, it was a hoax call!

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5drive.........

Couldn't that be the same way some of us think about any religion, though; isolation, brainwashing, a "my way or the highway" mentality?
Are these all reasons to do away with the 'freedom" of religion?



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5drive

Very true. It's hard to know where the boundaries are. And I'm certainly not in favor of anything as sweeping as doing away with freedom of religion.

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How young is too young?

DankDealer

Couldnt have said it better myself, im all about freedom of religion but there has to be a line drawn somewhere and once u cross that line then there needs to be intervention.

IF this is true then yes i agree 100% there needed to be an intervention...i dont give a shit about your freedom of religion if it involves molesting young children. I mean this guy is/was trying to legitimize the fact that hes a pedophile by partnering it with his "beliefs"....the shit he is doing, people go to JAIL for and some are even murdered by other inmates because sex crimes against children are that despicable.

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TM.....

This case doesn't have a thing to do with underage girls being molested to me. This case is about the overkill that has been rammed down these peoples throats. Go back and read some of your own posts and tell me if you were in their place how you'd feel? Let's say that a crime or crimes had been committed. Is that how we handle a criminal investigation in this country? We arrest everybody in site and then do an investigation?

There are probably a lot of people who are glad it's not like this.

In this country we have laws and a Constitution that are suppossed to protect us from the very same intrusion of government without due process that happened here. I am not for the rape and slavery of any child, but I damn sure want to be treated as innocent until PROVEN guilty.

These people are suppossed to have the same rights as all the rest of us. If these rights are taken away from them that means you have lost them too, folks.....

Before I traumatize over four-hundred children with a parental separation I would investigate the crime first, then arrest the perpetrator of this crime. It makes no sense to me to arrest the victims, which is what this seems to be.................

Dank Dealer.....

I guess that if all freedoms are not applied equally none of them are worth a fuck, huh?


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