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Anarchism is far right, guys. Communism is far left. Socialism is a form of government-comparing it to the other two is apples to oranges.

It is true that communism has caused some problems in the 20th century. On the other hand, fascism wasn't really a positive influence, either.

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Mr.Mojorisin

Im speaking in terms on Marxism and I dont see the current/past communist governments as communist as it was used as a tool by dictators to gain absolute power over the state.

Chile is the only country I know of that has attempted to practice communism without brutality but prove me wrong.

I dont believe in communism.

My statement of the right was ignorant and came from my general hated of it.

And now Im going to concede, youve obviously far more knowledgeable than myself.

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Dalamar49

How is anarchism a conservative, rightist philosophy? Do anarchists support the drug war, the combination of religion with state and do anarchists hate gay marriage and abortion?

I seriously doubt it. These are the tenets of the rightist philosophy not the anarchist philosophy. Anarchists and conservatives have nothing in common. Now anarchists and Libertarians can share some views (especially if the anarchist in question is an anarcho-capitalist.)

MickityMike

To the extreme Right end of the political spectrum lies no government, or Anarchy and to the Left is Communism. Everything else fits in between.

For example, conservatives are right-wing, but they're not as far to the Right as Libertarians. (Libertarians don't give a sh*t if gays marry, most conservatives do.) The farther to the right you go, the less government inteference in one's daily life is demanded, while the farther to the Left you go, the more help one demands from the government.

The idea of Right and Left are convoluted and obscure in every day political life, though. (I identify myself as very right-wing but I'm not a conservative Republican. Or you could just say that I'm a Classical Liberal. Whatever.)

Republicans claim to be for less government interference... as long as it's not about abortion, drugs, or gay marriage. Liberals claim to be for the rule of law, individual rights, the Constitution, etc., as long as it's not politically incorrect, i.e. the 2nd Amendment or Afirmative Action.

Both parties, Dems and Repubs, are one in the same, they just vary the "message" a bit.

caliskunk1

The right wing generally empasizes capitalism, which no anarchist would associate himself with. I see it as outside the right-left spectrum, although extreme-left would be closest (think communism w/o the gov't). Anarcho-capitalism is a joke. A BIG joke. "We don't want a government, but we still wanna be YOUR boss!". Anarchy, or systems derived form it or near it, have worked. The zapitistas in mexico, Christiana in Denmark, and the CNT after the Spanish Social War. alas, hitler and mousalini slautered them (the CNT) when they became a threat, emphasizing the need, theoretically if not practically, for world-wide revolution. all i gotta say is, gov't hasn't worked, communism hasn't worked, capitalism REALLY hasn't worked, so there's only one option left... And there really is a class struggle. the lower classes are the tool of the upper class elite. Tell me the last time you saw a CEO on the battlefield in any capitalist war. Campaign finance really just codifies the dominance of the rich. and i'm an ex-conservitive ex-liberal ex-socialist, so i have studied the whole spectrum.

BTW, im expecting the "zapitistas aren't really anarchist" stuff, but they're good enuf for me.

PS- Breed, how's my new sig?

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MickityMike

Explain to me how capitalism doesn't work.

Dalamar49

The right versus left paradigm is more antiquated than J. Edgar Hoover.

Here's what the political map really looks like:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php#centrist

How is it anarchism when you still need a statist government to distribute all the "economic rights" you talk so much about. A government would be required to properly run a universal healthcare and the government is a boss.

An (against), arch (rule) ist (ist). Without rule. You can't have a government operating a socialist paradise and still consider yourself "without rule." If you want anarchism the state has to go. There's no other way around it. With the destruction of the state any dreams of "social justice" will evaporate as well.

firsttimer

Free trade is the only way we would of made it in this world. But know we must all suffer the end of Earth...........

Dalamar49

What?

Yeah, trade is great, but I don't think restricted trade will bring the end of the Earth on.

Can you explain that for me?

caliskunk1

This may be kinda technical, but i think the ansr is anarcho-syndicalism. It allows for the use of industry and distribution in an anarchist society. It has also been the only form of anarchism to historicaly work, as in Spain after the social war. It's pretty much based on federation/unions organized by industry as opposed to by profession, that take up the task or organizing and training. None have any legal enforcement power. Which takes me to my next point...
Whether you believe anarchy works or not can really come down to one thing; your view on human nature. If you think that if left alone, without the capitalist kill-or-be-killed mentality ground into us, without the class seperation, the police state gov't, the "altered" or sugar-coated history books, etc., humans would be good and compassionate, then you could believe in anarchy.
But if you believe human are naturally greedy, evil, etc., and need a gov't to control them, then you'll never think it will work. Sorry if it was overly long winded...

Another point- Anarchist lifestyle/mentality as opposed to acheaving a full anarchist society

Whether or not anarchy will work as a society is what most argu about. How about the anarchist mentality in everyay life. I see it as:
Compassion
Mutual Aid
Free-thinking
resistance to evil (whatever your definition of that is)
equality (anti sexism, racism, homophobia, classism)
liberty
peace
tolerance
education

Now how is that so bad. if everyone was like that anarchy would just sorta happen.

Anarcho-Syndicalism links:
Industrial Workers of the World
Anarcho-Syndicalism 101