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Raised Fist

You just blew all logic out of the room. Science is based on evidence and experiments. How can you say science is BS when you are following a belief that has no way of backing itself up.

Anyway, I don't want to start an arguement, but the theory of evolution proved that Adam and Eve did not exist. And if you want me to put it in a more religious aspect, maybe Adam and Eve were God's first fully evolved humans.
Don't get me wrong, I believe in a higher being myself, but there are many ways of explaining things from the Bible.

If you were God, would you rather explain Evolution, what it is, what it does, how it works, etc. to a human who has very low intellegence, or would you rather say "Yeah I made Adam and Eve, the first two humans then the rest came from them."

Lol, in Mothman some guy said something along the lines of "Would you explain your ways to a cockroach?"

I probably got off track. All well.

 

TurbulentHigh

Okay, for everyone religious, dont bother arguing with this statement. There is no after life. Basically what it boils down to, is many people have a difficult time understanding that it is possible to not exist. Many people report "after life experiances" when they die, and then are brought back to life. To explain that in further detail, your brain releases a chemical similiar to LSD or LSA essentially that chemical is supposed to make you believe you are going on to another plane of existance. The reason for this is probably because humans need a basis to found their life around or else they would just commit suicide. Honestly religion is good for a couple things, it keeps people stable, it gives them something to work for, and it teaches them morals. But I wouldnt think that there is any kind of truth to religion. Another good example is, even people who have no religion still refer to their being a god, as most people accept the Judeo-christian god theory. I wouldnt say their is necessarily more truth to that religion than others, its just more wide spread in the United States. Although the United States is about individuality and having your own culture, most people actually develop a new culture which is the Americanized version of their own, which all boils back down to judeo-christain belief system. "In god we trust"

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macphearsome

Dimethyltryptamine, I believe. (DMT, for short)
No true scientist actually believes that science can prove anything. I find this happens a lot - religious types somehow assume that scientists think that science "proves" things.

All science has ever claimed to do is make an attempt to explain things we observe.
Science and god are not mutually exclusive. Many scientists are religious, and most religious people use science. They are not opposing ideas by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe you're thinking of atheism...

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EeJay

Yeah, it's all about perception, but we still have set "realities" in which we can rely on science. The same can't be said for religious gods.

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Roy

Religion is delusion. It comforts the deluded because it is a shared delusion.

Woman from rib, day and night before the sun, the failed return of Jesus. All these things make sense to the deluded. Reason doesn't matter. Fact is an illusion.

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icetoad

I find it impossible to believe that every cell in my body knew it's job from the beginning of my existence. I find it impossible to believe that everything I see around me is in essence an accident. I find it impossible to believe that life just suddenly happened.

I do believe in evolution, but it's a guided evolution.

Look at every function that cells in your body have to provide. Brain cells, skin cells, eyeball cells, bone cells, blood cells.

How can anything so complicated just "happen."

This is all part of a plan.

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jebus

It just "happens" over millions of years through evoloution. We started as single cell animals and as we evolved we got more cells which did different things etc...

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Roy

"I do believe in evolution, but it's a guided evolution."

So who guided it and how did they come to be? Did a super being create them and a super super being create them?

Perhaps it was/is a bacterial collective guiding viruses to alter DNA.

EeJay

What I don't understand is how people can say they find it impossible to believe in Evolution, yet they'll believe in a divine entity.

I know you said you believe in Evolution, but your first paragraph totally contradicts that.

If you want to say everything around us is an accident, then every action and every word we speak is also an accident. That's not true. The world was made by chance, yes, but it's not an "accident". Saying it is implies something else was "meant" to happen and what happened is wrong.

Life didn't "suddenly happen", it wasn't spawned from nothing. The first form of life was the result of chemical reactions.

I'm not having a go at you, I just think some people take the easy answer and say some supreme being made it all happen. I see it happen often and I personally believe it limits thinking potential.

I don't understand the mindset of "if we can't comprehend it, then it must be divine intervention", it's arrogant and naieve to say the least.