Trocisp

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us...=1&oref=slogin

Palin has hired multiple high school friends in well paying positions for which they're poorly qualified.
Palin manipulated the system to have her Ex-brother-in-law fired.
Palin lied in the suit against the Federal Government, saying that a State Scientists found that Polar Bears were in no danger, when email records (which were concealed until a Federal Freedom of Information Act was invoked) show the scientist stating directly otherwise.
Palin had her staff use personal E-mail accounts, rather than their Professional ones - because it would be more difficult to subpeona.

That's just on page one.

During the last legislative session, some lawmakers became so frustrated with her absences that they took to wearing “Where’s Sarah?” pins.

What's that expression?

Oh yeah. "The President can't vote Present." Apparently, however, the VP candidate can just not vote at all.

Freedom_User

Palin has been Mayor for 6 years, and Governor for 2. This is a great start for her on continuing the Bush's legacy.......Corruption. I cannot wait till she is 2nd in Command and will have far great power. YEEEEEEHAW!!! /Sarcasm out.

The whole comment of Palin saying that The War in Iraq is God's Will. Wha... Huh... Ahh? What What WHAT!? The Incredibly large percentage of Americans realize that the War in Iraq was a horrible blunder from the Bush Administration. You mean to tell ME that it is God's will to allow men to hide behind there bibles as some man pushes the button to 'Shock and Awe', killing innocent men, woman and children. Insane.

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The feds continually use and twist this simple clause as an excuse to expand their own power - at the expense of our liberty.

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sterbo

Hence his nickname.
Yes folks, you heard it here first - - -'The Cadaver'

or, if this helps -

'Actually, it was kind of a smart choice. McCain went with a woman
because he didn't want to be in a position to have to get CPR from Mitt
Romney.' –Jay Leno
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Buzzby

Bears is good eatin'!

Remember: sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you!

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troublemaker_42

LOL...from what I've heard, its pretty greasy, kinda like raccoon. I'll stick to venison and pheasant myself! (only a month til opening day of pheasant season here in SD....its basically a holiday around these parts, and I get to see my friend from NY I only see every 2 years!)

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If total government control equals safety, why are prisons so dangerous?

Buzzby

Actually, the only things I've found bear to be good for are sausage and stew. You want the fat in the sausage and you can skim it off the top of the stew. The taste depends on the bear's diet. If he's mostly a vegetarian, the meat's pretty tasty. If he's mostly a predator or scavenger, it can be pretty rank.

I've never eaten raccoon, but from their diet I expect they wouldn't taste very good.

troublemaker_42

I've admittedly never eaten either of the options, but just based my response on what I've been told. For what its worth, I've been told Mt. Lion is suprisingly good as well.


And,how does this relate to Palin, you might ask? She's an NRA member and a hunter, silly!!!!

troublemaker_42

About as insane as allowing Saddam to murder innocents by the thousands, many with methods far more inhumane than anything we've even contemplated doing. Tell me it was "God's Will" to allow the unchecked murders of anyone who dared disagree. Was the Iraqi war a mistake? The way it was handled certainly was, but to this day, you cannot convince me Iraq would be a better place with Saddam in power, or even more scarily, either of his sons. I'm admittedly a Christain myself, and certainly don't think God would have endorsed Saddam's continuing reign of terror. I'm not defending the lies the war was based on, or its current clusterfuck state of affairs. However, too, I refuse to let the sacrifices our servicemen and women have made go unnoticed, nor do I consider the lives sacrificed to be wasted or written off as a"mistake". I'm not saying the war was "God's Will" but too I cannot say I believe God approved of Saddam's behavior either. While I disagree with how it was handled, I firmly believe the world, and espeically Iraq, is a better place without Saddam's iron fist ruling it. How many innocent poeple would have had to die at his hand before you felt action being taken against him was justified?

shibshib

Sorry, troublemaker... but I can't resist pouncing on you...

You mean like what happens in Africa every day for the past decade or two?

You mean like what happens in Africa every day for the past decade or two?

Seeing as Iraq is current a shithole, completely unstable "country" that will be torn apart the second US forces leave (which of course will never happen). I don't really think they are in a better place.

I'm actually curious... about how many people did Saddam kill per year and about how many people has this war killed?

But you think he endorses ours?

Just because you don't want to believe someone died in vein doesn't make it magically true. I support our troops... I have a couple in the family even. But if I ever got the call that my cousin died in Iraq... I can't say I honestly would believe he died for a cause. I would consider it a complete waste, which would make it all the more sadder. How horrible is it to lose a loved one for no reason other than corrupt governments?

Speaking for God when it comes to massive amounts of death is usually not a good idea. There is never a way to justify thinking that God wants you to spread peace through destruction and death. And if your God does support that... then what separates you from those crazy jihadists you hate so much?

Wow... have you looked at our economy? Have you looked at the global economies that rely on ours? Have you looked at how many people have died? How many liberties have been taken away? How many people now live in fear of being labeled by the government?

That is the price of a world without saddam. And if you think the world is now better after this clusterfuck of an invasion... then wow.

You mean like what happens in Africa every day for the past decade or two?


See, the common theme through my post, if you hadn't noticed, was that the idea that this war was about helping poor innocent helpless iraqis from a big bad scary dictator is that when you consider the amount of people--especially in places throughout Africa--who live such shitty lives they could only DREAM of living in Iraq under Saddam... then where is your moral high ground now?

Why is it that we only seem to give a fuck about "poor civilians" in other countries if they happen to live on top of land that sits on top of some great natural resource?

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troublemaker_42

I nevewr said anything about dismissing the atrocites in Africa did I? No. I throughly understand that something needs to be done to help those people. No one deserves to live somewhere like Darfur's current situation. Nor did I ever profess to know exactly what the Almighty's thoughts are. Please quote me where I pretended to know exactly what was on God's mind. I can have a belief (which is exactly what I said..."I believe.....") of something without professing it to be true. Just becasue you believe in the Easter Buunny doesn't magically make him so. you can "pounce" on me all you want, but you really didn't say anything at all, aside from drawing your own conclusions from things I stated. When i've dismissed Darfur and the rest of Africa, when I quote God, when you actually have something to tear apart get back at me. AS it stands now, though, it sounds like you simply didn't like what I had to say and had to put words in my mouth to form a response. You can think whatever you like of my "moral highground" as you call it, but the truth is, you made a lot of assumptions and came to conbclusions that weren't based entirely on what I said. You keep up the rallying cry of "What about Africa?" as though i said "fuck 'em, whatever" when i never so much as implied any such thing. No matter what shithole you may be in, chances are if you look hard enough, you'll find several that smell worse. I'm not arguing that there are places worse than Iraq. However, despite what you may think now, Iraq has potential. Saddam and his methods distanced Iraq from much of the world economically. With him out of the picture, Iraq has opprotunities unheard of while he was running the show. I'm not saying the situation is ideal, or that its how I'd have wanted the change to come about, but thats neither here nor there. I understand you like to debate, but instead of focusing on what I didn't say --"Things in Africa are bad" and " I can't read God's Mind"..... focus what I did. No matter how many times you say "What about Africa?" it isn't going to change the fact Iraq isn't exactly the Hilton either, and certainly wasn't under Saddam's rule either.

Saddam Hussein killer file


It seems Saddam has played a role in several hundred thousand deaths, potentially in the millions actually. How many million must die before action is warranted?


And, for what its worth, Mr On Topic, how does any of this relate to Palin? From what I can see, very little. Freedom user's post, and my response to it, seems on topic, but the whole "What about Africa?" theme seems misplaced here, does it not? It certainly doesn't bother ME, but since you were kind enough to denounce my viewpoints as bullshit when they appeared in a thread you didn't think they applied to, I think its only fair to hold a mirror up to you here. What does "What about Africa" have to do with Palin, other than the fact she may eventually be in a position to make decsions on how we're going to deal with the situation...or not? That tangent is no more on topic than the thread you denounced my postings in referred to previously. You wouldn't mind taking your own advice, would you? You want to travel down the "What about Africa" road? Feel free to start a thread on it....however, if memory serves correct, Dedbr already has.....