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shibshib

LOL sorry that you're in another one of your moods sec, but if I saw an article quoting me in it, I would be the first person to say "why the hell should I care about what this guy has to say"

With that said, the rest of your post is moot.

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Freedom_User

Simple math, brought to you by me.

McCain = Bush
Palin = Cheney + Lipstick

= 4 more years

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That is fuckin' grand dude.... It's how it is too. At least how I view it anyways.

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Sec

So, If I understand what you are saying correctly...

Everything is moot unless you post it or it agrees with your philosophy? Everything is "shinnanigans" unless you post it?

What fucking mood are you taking about?

If you actually knew half of what you claim, you might be worth some of my time.

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shibshib

No, what I am simply saying is that I disagree with your immediate assumption that I would dislike the woman simply because she "has money".

That was a very pathetic cheap shot, and I would have responded more promptly (like I am now) if I had access to a computer at the time rather than typing on my phone.

First off, she is a *fundraiser*, that doesn't necessarily mean she is a *fund-giver*, it just means she is a woman with connections who can throw events to raise funds (get it? Fund-raiser, raise-funds?) for someone.

With that said... that's all she is... I have no idea what her education is in politics... I have no idea what her relationship was with Hillary (if she was actually a full-blown supporter, or just favored her over McCain, so when she was out of the picture, it was an easy switch).

So this news article is basically an article about a person who decided to switch their vote to McCain.

The only thing that makes it "newsworthy" is the fact that she used to be a fundraiser for Hillary.

So that is why I do not really care about the story... why would I? Should I care that the check-out boy at my grocery store decided to switch his vote? Should he get an article written up about him?

Of course not. People change their affiliation for many reasons... and the only reason this was in the news is because she was a fundraiser. I can definitely understand how that is interesting, just like a video of a kid getting hit on a bike would make the news as well...

But interesting does not mean legitimate reasoning... so excuse me if I choose to disregard the political commentary coming from a woman who's only connection in politics appears to be having friends and raising money.

Does she play an important part in politics? Yes. But her switching her party/vote is not important to me.

If you for some reason don't understand this very simple logic, sec, I would be happy to draw some sort of rudimentary graph/illustration for you.


Double-edit: Just to clear something up that I think I missed before... it is fine if people want to talk politics and share their opinions (like we do in the forum)... but the article was posted in a way that made it seem like the woman had any authority in politics, when in fact the article was more about novelty.

So yes, I do talk a lot about politics... I share my opinion(s) and point of view(s)... but that is just as a person on the forum.

If anyone ever wanted to write an article about me switching party affiliations or in regards to my opinion... my first thought would be "Why the hell do you want my opinion in the matter?"

And, likewise, if someone else is interviewed regarding their thoughts on politics, yet they seem to have no real foundation for political knowledge other than being something like a fundraiser... my "Why the hell do you want their opinion in the matter" response still kicks in.

No offense, sec, but I care as much about this fundraiser supporting McCain as I do about you supporting McCain or any other normal person.

Wake me up when a respected political analyst or someone of that caliber wants to weigh-in on the situation with their 2cents.... but excuse me if I don't care what a fundraiser/bag-boy/(insert random hobby/profession here) has to say... especially when what they say is unfounded or completely opinionated.

 

Sec

Um hmmm.

Here is a real objective report you posted in another thread:

http://www.marijuana.com/republican-...tml#post958865

"Jed" is a political opinionist trying to sell a book. He worked for two Democrats for a time.

That should be a real objective read on any candidate, don't you think?

Why do you think what he has to say should be considered any more than anyone else?
Why do you discount what other political activists have to say simply because you don't agree with them?

To put it in your terms:

or do you prefer:

Why do I care about your Jeb character and what he thinks regarding politics? He just begs for money and sales of his book.

Do I need to spell it out for you any clearer? You choose who you want to hear based on the content of their message. If it fits your idealism, then you give them all the credibility you can muster. If they happen to say something that doesn't fit in that pre-programmed brain of yours, then you have already decided that what they have to say shouldn't matter to anyone.

Try listening to everyone with an open mind for once.

(do you need a graph for this concept?)

Freedom_User

Yes please.

Yes please. Perhaps a Pie Chart as well.

Sec

You want to talk about pathetic cheap shots? You tried to pass this Jed guy off as [another republican who doesnt support McCain/Palin].

Do you really think he is a republican? Have you actually read his website?

Don't just search for a phrase or sentence that you can manipulate to imply what it was never intended to mean. You might want to research where your material is coming from.

shibshib

@sec... I've spent a few minutes trying to figure out who is this Jed/Jeb person you are talking about... your link didn't really go to any comments I had made. Perhaps you can post a direct link?

Anyways... the basis of your argument is flawed as I don't go against my underlying rule in my post.

As you stated, Jed/Jeb has worked with democrats, and he is attempting to hussle what I can only assume to be a political book since I'm not sure exactly as to who you are referencing.

So politics aside, opinions aside, legitimacy aside... you are comparing a fundraiser woman with a man who has actually worked in politics.

Perhaps things will change when I have a better understanding as to what you are referencing, but at the moment your comparison is invalid. No matter how much you want to shove that cube block into a circle-hole, it ain't going to budge.

Worst case scenario, I was mislead by an actual political professional it sounds like.

But look at you... you are trying your hardest to legitimatize some woman who was able to round up a bunch of friends for a bake-sale or something.

You keep trying to place your conclusions on me without applying them to yourself. I'm sorry, but you won't ever be able to easily categorize me... you just won't.

Hell, if you just search for my posts within the past week, you will see how I very nicely included Obama and Biden bashes with my comments as to cut off any fallacious attacks from Marvin.

So for you to say I only find what suits me is, again, a very cheap shot.

Seriously though, hit me back with a direct link, because the only "Jed" that comes to mind is the Jed Report... but that guy doesn't do books as far as I know, only videos.

Sec

It is the Sarah Palin thread, post #216 which you posted. You weren't misled, you never read his website. If you had, you coudn't have missed the fact that he is definetly NOT a republican. What do you do? Google Sarah Palin and post the first negative thing you can find? You posted it, you should know who he is.
BINGO! On the front page of his website, he is begging for "donations". He also has a petition for you to sign so he can go to a publisher with it claiming that the public is demanding that his book be published. It is all pretty cheesy; little worse than your "bake sale" scenario.

Just because someone is a fundraiser, doesn't mean they don't have experience in politics. Here is what you didn't bother to find out about Ms. Rothschild from Portfolio.com Executive Profiles:

Sure beats your little beggar who worked two jobs and still can't make ends meet or get himself published and is now trying to make it as a satirical political comic. You need to look into sources yourself instead of taking some website promo or another persons word on an internet board. You still think she should be discounted as a "Bake Sale Organizer"? You should really educate yourself on a subject before trying to spout your knowledge (or lack thereof) here.

All this doesn't matter really, because you choose to hear what you want to hear no matter who the messenger is or what they are saying. You have been told this before, on other threads, on other topics. I was reading areas of the forum where I hadn't been in a couple weeks and found others with the same frustrations in talking with you that I am having now. They had the same complaint as far as you not listening, hearing, or understanding what others are saying. Until you can listen and pay attention not only to what others are saying, but what you, yourself are posting, I'm done with you.


AWwwww Hell. I'll do your work for you this time (on the home page, he has a paypal option where you can donate to "TheJebReport":