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Old 03-08-2008, 12:48 PM   #41
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I don't have too many negative feelings about John McCain. I respect him as a person, for what he has done for our country, obviously. Sinve 2000, I've respected him a little bit less as a politician. He doesn't seem corrupt or anything like that. And I would much prefer him over just about any democrat when it comes to fiscal policy....

The republican party is about to do an about-face....they really need to find themselves again, to believe in their ideas. They don't hold much hope for their own ideas anymore, because they are never touting them, they usually just tear down the opposition's....

I like McCain's mix of republican with a streak of independence....I just hope that if he gets into the White House, he'll be more independent. Why not. The reason he's been much more on the party line the past year and a half is because of the campaign....

Something tells me I'll be voting for him in November, mostly because I am terrified of public healthcare. If the campaign gets to negative I'll probably get pissed and vote for the apparent end of negative politics, Obama. (wouldn't ever vote for Clinton though)

I give McCain props for being WAY ahead of everyone on the surge. I believe that we need to get out, but I also don't believe in bombing the shit out of a country, removing their leader, and leaving the citizens to deal with the aftermath.

Iraq may not be deserving of thousands of American lifes....but Iraq is worth our help, at least....
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:10 PM   #42
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I don't have too many negative feelings about John McCain. I respect him as a person, for what he has done for our country, obviously. Sinve 2000, I've respected him a little bit less as a politician. He doesn't seem corrupt or anything like that. And I would much prefer him over just about any democrat when it comes to fiscal policy....

The republican party is about to do an about-face....they really need to find themselves again, to believe in their ideas. They don't hold much hope for their own ideas anymore, because they are never touting them, they usually just tear down the opposition's....

I like McCain's mix of republican with a streak of independence....I just hope that if he gets into the White House, he'll be more independent. Why not. The reason he's been much more on the party line the past year and a half is because of the campaign....

Something tells me I'll be voting for him in November, mostly because I am terrified of public healthcare. If the campaign gets to negative I'll probably get pissed and vote for the apparent end of negative politics, Obama. (wouldn't ever vote for Clinton though)

I give McCain props for being WAY ahead of everyone on the surge. I believe that we need to get out, but I also don't believe in bombing the shit out of a country, removing their leader, and leaving the citizens to deal with the aftermath.

Iraq may not be deserving of thousands of American lifes....but Iraq is worth our help, at least....
When does it end? McCain is talking like we'll be there 100 years (or until the oil runs out).
PS..the surge was supposed to last a few months. I guess the White House figured that the american people couldn't tell time.
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When does it end? McCain is talking like we'll be there 100 years (or until the oil runs out).
McCain: 100-years-in-Iraq remark distorted - The Denver Post


In a perfect world, we could exit Iraq immediately. However, at this point, it simply does not seem like a realistic possibility. Merely ignoring a problem isn't going to make it go away.
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In a perfect world, we could exit Iraq immediately. However, at this point, it simply does not seem like a realistic possibility. Merely ignoring a problem isn't going to make it go away.
As Obama and Hillary keep putting their feet in their mouths, John McCain is looking better every day.
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Just one little problem here....hate to be a spoil sport, but he is slightly old for the job perhaps.....

Shades of Uncle Ronny, maybe........


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Old 03-11-2008, 11:04 AM   #46
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McCain, barring any drastic changes, has my vote. He's the closest thing we have to a pro-gun candidate, and overall, I find the idea of him running our country far less scary than Clinton or Obama. Clinton's overall attitude and lack of leadership exeprience frighten me. Obama seems to be all talk, with lots of ideas, yet little idea how to carry them to completion. Both are all for more gun control restrictions, and Obama has shown he can make animal-based agriculture (ranching) difficult. He has already played a major part in closing the last horse slaughter plant in the US, playing right into the hands of many animalrights organizations.. Animal Rights activists believe that such slaughter is inhumnae, yet offer no alternatives on how to get rid of old, injured, or flat out useless animals (due to demeanor or any number of other things). Now, horses are hauled long distances to either Canada or Mexico, and the Mexican slaughterhouses are absolute horrors compared to those that once existed in the US. These issues may not seem important to most of you, but such actions have major consequences for those of us involved in raising animals. Its troubvling when you see a potential national leader playing right into the hands of special interests groups without any regard to common sense. No one WANTS to think about horses being killed, but slaughter is a far less grusome death than starvation and neglect. Without a way to legally and logistically rid themselves of horses that no longer serve any purpose, many are doomed to be forgotten, left to roam, or simply allowed to starve to death. Still others will be crammed into a trailer with several others, in relatively unhealthy conditions, be be slaughtered in Mexico or Canada. The horses still die, and are till killed in slaughterhouses. However, thanks to people like Obama, such activity will NOT be happening in the US. By playing into the hands of the naiml rights activists,he has all but guranteed more animals will suffer. Common sense obviously isn't a requirement for running for president
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McCain, barring any drastic changes, has my vote. He's the closest thing we have to a pro-gun candidate, and overall, I find the idea of him running our country far less scary than Clinton or Obama. Clinton's overall attitude and lack of leadership exeprience frighten me. Obama seems to be all talk, with lots of ideas, yet little idea how to carry them to completion. Both are all for more gun control restrictions, and Obama has shown he can make animal-based agriculture (ranching) difficult. He has already played a major part in closing the last horse slaughter plant in the US, playing right into the hands of many animalrights organizations.. Animal Rights activists believe that such slaughter is inhumnae, yet offer no alternatives on how to get rid of old, injured, or flat out useless animals (due to demeanor or any number of other things). Now, horses are hauled long distances to either Canada or Mexico, and the Mexican slaughterhouses are absolute horrors compared to those that once existed in the US. These issues may not seem important to most of you, but such actions have major consequences for those of us involved in raising animals. Its troubvling when you see a potential national leader playing right into the hands of special interests groups without any regard to common sense. No one WANTS to think about horses being killed, but slaughter is a far less grusome death than starvation and neglect. Without a way to legally and logistically rid themselves of horses that no longer serve any purpose, many are doomed to be forgotten, left to roam, or simply allowed to starve to death. Still others will be crammed into a trailer with several others, in relatively unhealthy conditions, be be slaughtered in Mexico or Canada. The horses still die, and are till killed in slaughterhouses. However, thanks to people like Obama, such activity will NOT be happening in the US. By playing into the hands of the naiml rights activists,he has all but guranteed more animals will suffer. Common sense obviously isn't a requirement for running for president
Slaughterhouses, by their very nature, are unhealthy places for the animals in them. The meat on a horse is very lean and much more healthier for you than beef or pork.
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Just one little problem here....hate to be a spoil sport, but he is slightly old for the job perhaps.....

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Or you could get a young guy like JFK, who nearly blew up everyone during the Cuban missile crisis.
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Slaughterhouses, by their very nature, are unhealthy places for the animals in them. The meat on a horse is very lean and much more healthier for you than beef or pork.
True on both accounts(though venison is healtherier than all 3 I believe). However, theres such things as humane slaughter, and what I've read about the facilities in Mexico, the death is far from what we'd consider "humane".
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Common sense obviously isn't a requirement for running for president
And especially isn't for being a Democrat.

I completely agree with you on this point. While I strongly oppose factory farming and tolerance of animal cruelty in general - Obama obviously doesn't realize that his decision has caused an even larger problem.

Oh well, McCain really wasn't my first choice, but as of now it definitly seems like he's the lesser of three evils (by far).
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