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kontroversy · 08-15-2006, 01:06 AM

thats called losing oxygen very high my ass.

dedbr · 08-15-2006, 01:16 AM

Oh yeah, smoking and you....

OK, first, smoke that has been in your lungs has very little THC, but a new smoker will get high on it if inhaled in large amounts, maybe...

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A shotgun that comes from the joint or bowl directly will have all the THC of a normal toke from same, can ya dig it?

Re-breathing the same air from a balloon or sack makes ya hyper-ventilate or something? I don't know, sucking a balloon sounds like a little much to me......

Some Where In Ded Land.........

hendrix · 08-15-2006, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by astronauts_suck

The reason hotboxing works that way because there's also smoke coming from the cherry of the joint, blunt, etc., that hasn't been inhaled, and thus has THC in it.

That's the way I see it at least...

Good point.

The experiment above would still be worth trying and would give us some insight, well.. for me atleast. I'm hoping my dealer will help me out tonight, it's been a few weeks, if he does come through.. I'll buy some balloons tommorow and find someone to do the simple experiment with, it's not like i've got anything to lose.. besides the $1-2 dollars for balloons (and maybe my dignity?). - i'll get water balloons to throw at (or even give to) the neighboring kids.

kontroversy, lets say at the minimum we get 80% thc.. that still 20% percent!!

- 5 shot gun hits will give you about a full hit!! haha.. not much to work with, but I noted that above.. it would only help slightly but help none the less. so it would in actually get you higher.. so I wouldn't go as far as to say it's pointless.

anyway, can anyone back anything up?? I read about 80%-90% of thc is absorbed all the time on this forum, but I'm not one to believe everything I read, not at least without some credible source.

nornerator · 08-15-2006, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by token ganj

I've always wondered about thc in exhaled smoke. If it's true about there being virtually no thc in exhaled smoke, why does shot gunning work? For those who may not know what shot gunning is, it's when you exchange the smoke you've inhaled into someone else. Also, when people fishbowl/hotbox a small room, car etc.. anyone who's in there that isn't smoking will get affected. Shotgunning and hotboxing may not produce much of a high, but it produces a high none the less.. even with two or three hits when shotgunning..

So I think the balloon method would work, only slightly, but enough to make a differance. The best way to find out, would be to exhale into a balloon and have someone who hasn't been smoking inhale whats in the balloon. Try it with 2-3 fresh hits and ask the subject how he/she feels. It would be a relatively cost free experiment and would for the most part give us a better idea.

Also, for those saying it wouldn't work, could you send me source link of a past experiment that came to this conclusion?

Its a well known fact that exhaled smoke contains little to no THC. This is why holding smoke in for longer than 5 seconds not only delivers almost no THC but does damage to your lungs from all the carcinogens and tar that grasp to your lungs.

Using a balloon is harmful. Upon initial inhalation 95% of the THC is absorbed. 5% of THC is left in dirty smoke, but plenty of tar and carcinogens.

The reason hotboxing affects people that aren't smoking are obvious. People who aren't smoking probably don't smoke marijuana much at all so they would have a low tolerance. And plus most of the THC content in the hotbox atmosphere would be from the non-inhaled smoke burning from the bowl, or end of a joint.

dedbr · 08-15-2006, 04:47 AM

you can all go to bed, dedbr found it.....http://www.marijuana.com/420/health-...+to+hold+a+hit

This is the thread on how long to hold a hit.....

Took me a minute, but I knew that search feature was for something.......

It also explains the lack of THC in exhaled smoke......

Some Where In Ded Land.........

..See, I am good for sumthin.....

**troublemaker_42** · 08-15-2006, 08:46 AM

Kon said it best....any added "highness" is simply from your brain being deprived of oxygen. Samwe thing happens when you hold hits in for extended periods of time. You aren't getting higher, your damaging your brian cells. Your brain needs oxygen to function properly. Depriving it of that cannot be good, and is bound to make you feel a bit "funny" but don't confuse that with being "high". Anyone who likes their lungs and brain would dismiss this as a horrible idea. As for the comment

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well i ask this question because i heard someone online say that he was smoking a gravity bong and he would just exhale back into the bottle and kept breathing it for a minute and that all it took to get him very high. so i would think thats proof that it would work.

Good Lord kid! PLEASE don't tell you accepct everything you read online as the truth. Yopu think one random stranger posting something is PROOF of anything? You've got to filter what you read.....don't accecpt the words of a stranger as truth, when there is nothing to back his statements up. Drugs, including marijuana, are surrounded in fallicies.....the idea of "recycled smoke" is one of many that simply don't hold water in the real world.

**Hashishi** · 08-17-2006, 04:22 PM

edit: I was gonna just edit out my post after having read the first page and realising its pretty much already been said, then I thought: what the hell? We've got an excuse to repeat ourselves, right?

While in technicality you will be getting *more* marijuana by inhaling and exhaling (/recycling) smoke into a bag/can/bottle/wuteva, the actual ammounts are so marginal as to be irrelevant to your overall state of fuckedupness.

08-15-2006, 01:16 AM	#12
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