Gee

I was watching Americas Hardest Prisons last night and they were showing "Tent City" in Texas. For a start, it makes me sad that America locks up so many of it's own people for petty crimes. I asked myself, why don't they just allow cannabis? If every inmate in prison got a few joints with each meal, wouldn't the whole system be chilled out and a hell of a lot less violent? I can understand the 'black market' side of things but that wouldn't be as big a deal if everyone got a share. Apart from that fuckwit who runs the place (forgot his name and don't care to try and remember it) I can't see why it wouldn't be a good idea.

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epic_stoner

Well id say because it is actually an illegal substance and it is not aloud?

troublemaker_42

Why would we reward inmates for being criminals? Thats counterproductive to the idea of prison. You are supposed to get FEWER freedoms and privledges than outsiders, certainly not MORE. I don't see the distribution of illegal drugs being embraced by any department of corrections anywhere, especially here in the US, and even moreso, its NOT not going to happen at Tent City. Why give inamtes a drug they may be serving time for selling or possessing already? While I understand your thinking (sort of) I don't agree its a good idea, nor will it ever happen. Nor do I believe the underlying premise opf your post that cannabis somehow promotes peace and love among all who use it. I know many nonviolent people who smoke weed, but....i also know gang members who wouldn't really think twice about busting a 40 oz bottle over your head that also smoke inceesently. As much as I'd love to think otherwise, marijuana doesn't equal peace and understanding, nor would providing weed to prisoners reduce violence (and, for what its worth, I've heard from multiple people who have been "inside" that drugs are EASILY obtainable in prisons already, to the point its easier to score there than on the streeet) By your logic, that should make prisons happy and peaceful.... but guess what? They ain't...

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If total government control equals safety, why are prisons so dangerous?

MetallicaFan495

Wow where to start. You almost sound like your against weed, and that somehow people are criminals for smoking weed. So im a criminal because I smoke weed? Dude I have a job, I goto college, im nice to everybody (unless they arnt), im responsible and I pick up after myself, and guess what...im a huge fucking pothead. Why would you suggest that everyone in prison is a criminal? I mean sure, if your thrown in prison for possession of MJ you might have to literally fight back and kill people to survive, and in no manner am I bullshiting you cause I sure as hell am not. And how can you say weed doesnt bring peace and understanding?

Name one person on this earth who gets high and gets "violent." I mean really? Sure obviously drugs are available in prison, but most of it is meth and amphetamines and speed. Shit if you gave an inmate a joint I doubt he would have the urge to kill somebody, I mean does it make YOU wanna kill people? Geeze ive seen alot of your posts and you've been right about most things, but to say that people who are in jail for marijuana are criminals? Am I the only person upset by this? And dont try and justify what you just said as something else, cause I re-read your post like 3 times and am still shocked. I sort of agree with drug dealers, but then again who do you get your weed from? You better thank each and every dealer for taking the risks to give you weed. And sure most of them arnt exactly "social workers" but my dealer is the coolest dude i have ever met in my life. He wouldnt hurt a fly and sure as hell doesnt belong in prison.

Please think about what you posted cause I think thats just rediculous and out of line. And if you wanna talk about gang members? Im pretty sure the gang always comes before the drugs, drugs is obviously a part of gangs but usually they deal with alot harder drugs than marijuana. Hell yeah I agree with the fact that some gang members are ruthless and will kill just to kill, but are you comparing the people on this forum to gang members? Look you have senority on this forum, and I see you've been here over 5 years, and watch I bet someone will respond to this post acting like im crazy for saying what I said. But look man, its not your place to judge other people. How would you like it if I called you a loser druggie gang member that deserves to be in prison? Obviously if I said that to you face to face you would be stunned, knowing that your a perfectly normal average person who probably abides every other law other than the marijuana laws. And so are most of the people on this forum! I say most cause I dont know everyones deal. But going back on topic to "should we let inmates smoke weed." Why the hell not? Its not like a joint is gonna make a murderer lash out and cause utter destruction. In fact it'd probably do the opposite, and as a lot of scientific research has shown that weed calms someone down and relaxes them, and puts them in a more pacifist state of mind. Never in my smoking life have I met someone who smokes, then acts violent. Ive just never seen it, nor have I ever seen a stoner with the energy or will to even attempt to be violent. Please do note on the extremely large amount or prisoners who are there for POSSESSION ALONE.

Whether its weed or any drug, it should always be the persons choice what they put in their own body, and that includes a bullet. Anyone can hurt or rape people, you dont have to be a drug user to do these horrible things. In fact, most REAL criminals get their adrenaline rush from these such acts, so its like their drug. If you respond to this post troublemaker, please just be calm throughout the post. You always get defensive, and maybe its because im new to this forum that you dont trust what I have to say, but im not at all an idiot, and im in medical school right now at john hopkins university, and for all you who are wondering quite a few doctors smoke the herb Troublemaker again, if you feel you have something to say regarding my post, dont try to convince me that people who are in jail for possession or sale of drugs are criminals, your not going to convice me otherwise. If you bring up gang members...yes I agree that is a problem, but it can no where in hell compare to some dudes chillen back and smoking a doobie. To answer the OP's question, weed would be one thing but alcohol or any other drug probably would have negative effects.

I cant see how weed would make prisons any worse, its not like they have anywhere to go anyways. And imagine being actually locked up in a prison...ya know people are going to fuck with you EVERY SINGLE DAY unless you have senority or are in a gang that has your back. You probably would fear for your life, and would recieve threats daily. Imagine always having to watch your back...wouldnt that just be horrible? If it were me, weed would at least give me the happiness not to kill myself in prison, cause honestly thats what alot of non violent people do. Its horrible. Please think about what I said and like I said, just talk normal to me, my purpose on this forum isnt to target you, and yours isnt to target me. If we are all regular stoners then this shouldnt be a hard thing to discuss. Thanks!

troublemaker_42

If you'd learn to use paragraphs, I might actually read something that long....

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newcarcaviar

With all due respect, this thread is so wrong. First of all, I'm pretty sure people in Tent City aren't in there for petty crimes. Gee, you said yourself you were watching America's Hardest Prisons. Do you think those places are filled with drug dealers and shoplifters? I think not.

Metallica, I hate to break it to you, but people in jail for weed ARE criminals.

Last time I checked, marijuana was against the law. Therefore, by using it we're all criminals. We are non-violent criminals for the most part and I strongly disagree that people should be in jail for marijuana charges, but facts are facts and that's where we're at today.

Now about giving people in prison marijuana. This is just nuts. The authorities won't even let your average Joe smoke a joint. Do you really think they'd give people behind bars for rape and murder a joint. The idea of prison is to punish/rehabilitate. I seriously doubt people in jail would be given a right that people not in jail don't have. As TM said, the point is for them to be given less freedom, not more.

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5drive

There's only one plus to this idea, but many minuses.

There's the fact that smoking has been banned in federal prisons and state prisons are following suit. They're certainly not going to ban cig smoking and allow mj. For one thing joints would instantly become the prison monetary unit, as cigs have always been. And many brainwashed people still believe the old 'reefer madness' BS that cannabis causes a person to become violent. So even the real benefit of this suggestion would be lost on them. In addition, the criticism would be that we'd be getting all these law breaking people addicted to a dangerous drug, and that upon release, they'd be going out to rob and kill to support their addiction.

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emuhhleee

it'll never happen for the fact that weed is illegal, if they're in a place where people go because they did something illegal they're not going to let them do something illegal while they're in the place where they go because they did something illegal.

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MetallicaFan495

Answer this in a yes or no question. Do you think people who smoke weed are criminals? If not, just b/c you get put in jail for weed automatically makes you some evil person? People put in jail for weed is the sickest thing ive ever heard, and if you ever get put in prison and you compare yourself to the other people in the prison, you'll easily draw a fine line between criminals and innocent people who are accused of being criminals.

And all in all, of course prisons are going to give inmates weed. The question is, whats the worst that could happen? And eating all the prison food doesnt count