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Democracy 19 34.55%
Communism 5 9.09%
Aristocracy 0 0%
Oligarchy 0 0%
Monarchy 0 0%
Republic 10 18.18%
Totalitarianism 1 1.82%
Despotism 0 0%
Anarchy 10 18.18%
Other (specify in your answer) 10 18.18%
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:01 AM   #21
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I want Anarchy so I can live out my Mad Max fantasy of driving souped up cars down the middle of the road, while smoking a doobie and running down old ladies.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:04 AM   #22
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Hell yeah Blondie, great fuckin' post!!!
Blondie0420 how about me and you just go off and make this gov't you and I dream of.. Just you and me baby

ohyeah, I guess everyone else can come too, but you have to feed me and blondie0420 grapes on our whim. And play the harp all day

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Pfft, you can do that right now. If you want.... My only advice is plan a good escape route
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:06 AM   #23
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I hope your joking
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:15 PM   #24
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I want anarchy in the sense that I can live on a piece of land and do whatever the hell I want to do as long as I don't hurt anyone else. Luckily there are still remote enough places in the good ole USA that I can get away with a lot of stuff.
You obviously lack an understanding of basic economics.

Maxwell house and Folgers Coffee pay pennies to farmers to grow beans... places like Starbucks pay dollars. Considerably more, in fact.

Sure, some companies pay very little, however in some places, the very little they pay is more than enough to live on.

Keep in mind, coffee is a luxury item, not a food. Something like Corn has a price that's relatively fixed because people need corn, people want coffee.
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You obviously lack an understanding of basic economics.

Maxwell house and Folgers Coffee pay pennies to farmers to grow beans... places like Starbucks pay dollars. Considerably more, in fact.

Sure, some companies pay very little, however in some places, the very little they pay is more than enough to live on.

Keep in mind, coffee is a luxury item, not a food. Something like Corn has a price that's relatively fixed because people need corn, people want coffee.
Did you misquote me or something?

I just want to grow my own food and live off of my land, you know, wood fired stoves and no running water and all that fun stuff. I don't know why I would need knowledge of economics to figure out that way of life would probably keep me out of the market to a high degree.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:03 PM   #26
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It's a difficult question, because in "a perfect world" each and every political theory is a good one. I had to answer this question on a final exam a few weeks ago after a year and a half of intense study of all of the main philosophies of the renaissance to the present.

As far as the philosophies go, I am a fan of Marx. I don't identify myself as a communist, but I have a Marxist view of history, that is, i believe that the economics of a society is the biggest influence. Not a giant fan of the Hegelian Dialect though.

That said, I would want capitalism implemented in my perfect society. I would like it to be more laissez-faire than it is today, but not as much as it was back in, lets say, the 1840s in the US.

In my perfect society, one of my "pillars" would be that the government should always be actively trying to find out what it shouldn;t be doing and what responsibilities can be given to private individuals. If I was a high-ranking member of Congress, for example, I would try to start a "10th Amendment Commission" and try to return as much powers back to the states as possible.

In general, I believe that all politics are local, or should be. I would greatly welcome a return to (if it ever existed in the first place) to a United States with many almost-sovereign areas, each with very different laws. I believe that the Darwinian aspect of law-making is missing in today's country. I would love for states to have differing laws in many areas, to kind of set up "experiments in democracy" and kind of implement natural selection to law-making.

I guess I'm a fan of the republic, all in all. It has some flaws, but you can't argue with the results....
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I chose other, and here is why:

It's my personal belief that any Government will eventually try and screw it's people, and the larger it is the worse the 'screwing' will be. I'd like to see a country, sort of like the United States, that has no central Government except in times of war, and it would only remain in power untill the fighting is done.

Otherwise, each individual state of the nation is governed by a system of true democracy. Elected officials have no real power in their seats in the Government, all they do is discuss the issues brought to them and compromise/alter them to benefit as many people as possible. Then the people vote a first round, which will determine general public support of said issue. Based on the success of the first round, the elected officials will alter it further to fit the people who did not vote for it the first time around, and so on untill as many people as possible approve the Issue.

This way, each individual vote does matter on every issue. Officials with no power cannot corrupt a system to their benefit. The only solid system that would be in place would be a National Guard/Police system. The Police would be each state's standing army, and officers would be rotated throughout the state regularly.

And, of course, the official flag of this nation would be a big Peace sign.
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Did you misquote me or something?

I just want to grow my own food and live off of my land, you know, wood fired stoves and no running water and all that fun stuff. I don't know why I would need knowledge of economics to figure out that way of life would probably keep me out of the market to a high degree.
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Heh, =) You make me laugh Trocisp, in a good way.

Yes, I believe that there are two (probally many more actually) solutions. 1.) End the opressed/opresser relationship (Paulo Freire) with the producers and the producees, or 2.) end the cycle alltogether. Ive always been the radical leaning towards the solution that seems to end the most problems, so I naturally lean to the end of Globalization altoghther. I don't think that we will stop paing Ethiopians 23c per kilo of coffee beans anytime soon. I don't like the idea of others slaving just so us fat Americans can have our starbucks coffees. I think it would be great if we could stop the opressed/opresser relationship between the supplier and buyer. I simply don't forsee that happning, simply because those in power care about one thing - money. Thats why (in my mind) we need to take those in power out of power, and ablolish globlization for ourselfs.
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You obviously lack an understanding of basic economics.

Maxwell house and Folgers Coffee pay pennies to farmers to grow beans... places like Starbucks pay dollars. Considerably more, in fact.

Sure, some companies pay very little, however in some places, the very little they pay is more than enough to live on.

Keep in mind, coffee is a luxury item, not a food. Something like Corn has a price that's relatively fixed because people need corn, people want coffee.
I'm sorry, but the simple fact of the matter is that our economy thrives by going over to other countries, and either buying goods for dirt money or buying labor for dirt money. We have created such a demand for sweetshops in India, for example, that people actually fight for the right to spend 14 hours a day stiching american soccer balls together. In no way do these corparations (generally) care about the lives of their workers, as long as they make as much of that sweet, sweet money as possible.
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