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JTP

I have to pay those blood sucking bastards more money. Needed more deductions. I kinda missed have the taxes deducted automatically, at least it didn't hurt as much as paying them for a whole year at one time.

 

smoking_joe_lee

Too bad about losing your job. I may often disagree wit you but still, losing a job sucks. Even when I lost a couple of jobs I did not particularly like, it still sucked.
What happened to the excess mileage deduction you mentioned a few months ago? Not usable, or not a large enough deduction?
I looked up a few tax related quotes. Maybe one will cheer you up a little bit anyway.
"Only the little people pay taxes." hotel owner and PRISON INMATE Leona Helmsley
"I owe the government $3400 in taxes, so I sent them two hammers and a toilet seat." Michael McShane
this one is not tax related, but you might like it anyway;
"The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and prooves it." P J O'Rourke

xxdr_zombiexx

I dont care what the voices in my head say about you.... yer all right

Thanks a bunch dude. That kindly improves my weekend.

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There's no money for your issue so long as we're squandering $50 billion a year on the DrugWar. Ben Masel

Fear became the ultimate tool of this government - V.

mikez

I'm so on top of it... I already got my refunds deposited straight into my bank account. (That free electronic filing is all right!) But I should fess up that as usual I was a disorganized slob ... it was my wife who got it done early.

Last year we owed... so much that we got fined for not having more taken out up front. (It was news to us.)

Bush supposedly gets credit for delivering tax cuts. The reality is we all got whopping tax increases the past few years. We just didn't pay up front. It's like an appliance salesman bragging about "price cuts," but when you go in to check it out you find the price has increased 50% but you only have to pay half in cash. The rest goes on your credit card. So that's a "price cut" because more money stays in your pocket (until the bill arrives). Bush has gone on a spending spree, funded by record levels of borrowing. But the borrowing wasn't on his credit card, it was on ours. We have to pay every cent, plus interest. Great favor to the taxpayers to pile on the debt burden like there's no tomorrow.

Of course Bush's spending on the military has been exorbitant. But even "domestic discretionary spending" has been a blowout. E.g. from an article in slate: Fuggin borrow and spend republicans. They wouldn't suck so much if they at least had one principle they would stick to.

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smoking_joe_lee

Principle and politics, they both start with 'p' but have little else in comman.
As for Bush, to the best of my knowlege he has never refered to himself as a fiscal conservative. This is someone who spends tax dollars as if he knows and cares people worked hard to earn them. Frugal is the word I am looking for.
Bush calls himself a compassionate conservative. This term never came up in my college political science class but my best guess is that it is a conservative who spends like a liberal. The medicare prescription plan is one example. It gives seniors some break on prescription drugs and doesn't leave out the drug companies.

"Unquestionably there is progress. The average American now pays out twice as much in taxes as he formerly got in wages." Henry Louis Mencken 1880-1956

 

mikez

I take it you mean this is not someone who knows and cares...

Anyway maybe I should have left out the crack about principles... I mainly wanted to point out that Republicans in Congress as well as Bush like to claim that they've done taxpayers a big favor with the recent "tax cuts," but we should not forget the taxes they stuck us with in the form of new borrowing, that we'll have to pay back with interest. Like the guy buying the overpriced fridge, getting it half on credit doesn't make it a good deal.

I noticed TomPaine.com has a new op-ed piece on that very point, except they came with 5 diffferent ways these "tax cuts" are a bad deal.

Excerpt:

mikez

P.s. What was the deficit in 2003 -- about $450 billion? And the population of the U.S. is what, about 290 million? So that works out to over $1,500 per man, woman and child that you should mentally add on to your taxes. Though really shouldn't count some folks, who for whatever reason aren't going to be in any position to pay... so more realistically it's over $2000 per taxpayer, over and above what you paid this year.

HappyMan

2 questions.

1. How many people want government services?
2. How many people want to pay for them?


Taxes money realy does go somewhere useful.

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Herb Ninja

1) Well how do you define "government services." If government services means paying to train and arm men to arrest and detain me or anyone else for using, buying, growing, or selling marijuana then no.

2) Who will stop politicians from breaking promises and using our money against us?

Useful? Like bombing Iraq useful? Or building homeless shelters useful? Paying DEA agents to raid medical marijuana distributors, is that useful? Or would we be talking about building roads useful? Having troops in over a hundred countries useful? Or paying firemen useful? Lots of things are useful, but to what end?
Peace, HN-

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mikez

How about paying $300 billion a year in interest on old "tax cuts" from the 1980's useful?

p.s. What is the point of that jumping fire guy smiley? I don't mean why did I use it ("cuz it was there") but why does it exist?