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View Poll Results: For the 2003 Tax Season
I owe taxes 27 16.46%
I'll recieve a refund 113 68.90%
I dont know yet 24 14.63%
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:17 AM   #21
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Ah, the joys of being a student.
I didn't make enough money to have to file.
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Old 04-14-2004, 10:34 AM   #22
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1) Well how do you define "government services." If government services means paying to train and arm men to arrest and detain me or anyone else for using, buying, growing, or selling marijuana then no.

2) Who will stop politicians from breaking promises and using our money against us?

Useful? Like bombing Iraq useful? Or building homeless shelters useful? Paying DEA agents to raid medical marijuana distributors, is that useful? Or would we be talking about building roads useful? Having troops in over a hundred countries useful? Or paying firemen useful? Lots of things are useful, but to what end?
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With all due respect to your personal maturity and wisdom...

You aren't paying your family's taxes.

I'm afraid your perspective on this issue is based solely on what you have read, viewed and heard and not on what you have experienced yet in life.
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My charity work had some deductions I wasn't aware of. Turbo Tax is fabulous!

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Old 04-14-2004, 11:21 AM   #23
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With all due respect to your personal maturity and wisdom...

You aren't paying your family's taxes.
Thats vauge and presumptuous. Do I pay all the taxes in my family? No.
Although understand that I help to make them money, which is taxed.

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I'm afraid your perspective on this issue is based solely on what you have read, viewed and heard and not on what you have experienced yet in life.
Explain to me how reading, viewing, and hearing is not experience in life? You think I have no idea how to fill out a tax form? Ive seen hundreds of w-2s, 1099's, 1098s, ect.... for the last few months. I see how much money is stolen from people. Sometimes, they have to pay even more. Unfortunatly, I make my money assisting in income tax preperation, working to try and get people refunds. And what did they buy? What are they getting a refund for? The government is just giving them back part of what they stole. I don't even think my job should exist. I guess its better then getting no money back at all.... Peace, HN-
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Old 04-14-2004, 12:28 PM   #24
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Thats vauge and presumptuous.
You are only 17 years old.

You have lived you entire life in your mother and father's home on a small island in the middle of the Pacific ocean.

The most stressful event in your life is coping with your parent's reaction to your 22 year old sister's life decisions.

Everything you know about the world outside of your Island comes from seeing movies, watchin television, listening to CDs and radio, reading books and newspapers, articles and magazines, attending your Church and of course surfing the internet. Your opinions are solely based on the opinions of other people.

You have no first hand knowledge.

You have never actually lived in the contiguous 48 states of the Union, to the best of my knowledge.

You don't have the experience yet of earning an income on which to support yourself, raise a family, deal with a disability or medical emergency, or even being a member of a larger socio-economic community then the size of a large county.

You are earning an income doing taxes now. Do you only collect your fee from the people who get a refund?
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:21 PM   #25
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You have lived you entire life in your mother and father's home on a small island in the middle of the Pacific ocean.
No, I have not. Ohh and its "You have lived your entire life..." not "You have lived you entire life"

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The most stressful event in your life is coping with your parent's reaction to your 22 year old sister's life decisions.
No, that is another false presumption.

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Everything you know about the world outside of your Island comes from seeing movies, watchin television, listening to CDs and radio, reading books and newspapers, articles and magazines, attending your Church and of course surfing the internet. Your opinions are solely based on the opinions of other people.
Thats incorrect, and I attend no "Church."

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You have no first hand knowledge.
Do you enjoy trying to discredit me?

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You have never actually lived in the contiguous 48 states of the Union, to the best of my knowledge.
Depends how you define lived. Ive never lived continuously for much more then a year on the mainland.

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You don't have the experience yet of earning an income on which to support yourself, raise a family, deal with a disability or medical emergency, or even being a member of a larger socio-economic community then the size of a large county.
Yet? I may never "raise a family." I have had medical emergencies, but no I haven't had cancer yet. And I guess my definition of disabilities isn't as limited as yours. And please explain to me whats necessary to "be a member of a larger socio-economic community then the size of a large county." Peace, HN-

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Old 04-14-2004, 01:27 PM   #26
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Do you only collect your fee from the people who get a refund?
I don't do fee collection, i'm just an assistant. And it is uncommon that people have to owe. But sometimes when they have 1099-miscs and get paid through "non-employee compensation," they didn't get taxed yet and the IRS wants their cut so they often owe. Peace, HN-
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Old 04-14-2004, 01:48 PM   #27
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I refuse to get into a debate with you on this.

May your day be sweet...

And all your tax refunds be large.

Have a cookie

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Old 04-15-2004, 02:49 AM   #28
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Some Instances of the uses of taxes

Fire Protection
Police protection (There are theives and rapist living near all of you)
Roads
Trash Removal
Sewers
Public water
Schools
Air traffic control
Aircraft safety regulation
automobile safety regulation
Food inspection and safety standards.
Scientific research
Medical research
Banking regulation
corporate regulation
insurance regulation
national security
care of the developmentaly disabled
care of the mentaly Ill
Public transit
economic development
Proffesional licensing
Building code enforcement
Affordable housing
Forestry regulation
Courts
Protection of civil liberties
Enforcement of civil liabilities
enviromental protection
sea recuse
medicare
medicaid
social security
state health care programs
Forgein intelligence gathering
Forgein Diplomacy
Promotion of forgein trade
currency regulation
Border patrol
Fishery regulation
civil infrustruction development
land use planning
recreation (as in municiple)



Tax money realy goes somewhere, it goes into services that people want. Most, nearly all of money gathered through taxation goes directly back into the pockets of citizens. If people did not want services such as those listed above, the would not exist. This is democracy at work, what the people want the governments (federal, state, county and city) deliver.

And no, I do not want to hear about how the 'government' is forcing marijuana prohibition on us. The majority of the people in the U.S. either actively support prohibition or do not care. The 'government' is responding to this desire in it's continued enforcement of drug laws.
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Old 04-15-2004, 02:56 AM   #29
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I don't buy that have-to-live-on-the-mainland, pay your own rent, live independently or whatever, before you can have legitimate opinions about whether the gov't is doing good stuff with your tax dollars.

You could argue the opposite: established people, who are busy with meaningful jobs, relationships, responsibilities, feel good about the system they are part of and become oblivious to the existence of horrifying acts carried out by their gov't, with their tax dollars.

With that in mind, here's a quote from journalist Robert Dreyfuss's blog over at TomPaine.com:

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With the latest two Americans killed in a helicopter that was shot down Sunday, that makes 663 U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq since the start of the war last March.

That's bad. Far worse is the number of Iraqis killed—in just the past week or so. Associated Press reports that since April 1, 700 Iraqis have died in fighting across Iraq, including the dozens killed when U.S. forces rocketed a mosque last week. That's probably greatly underestimating the actual number of dead. In all, uncounted tens of thousands of Iraqis have died, thanks to President Bush's "liberation" of Iraq.

The neocons and Iraqi exiles, like Ahmad Chalabi, claim that Saddam Hussein killed 300,000 Iraqis in 35 years of ruling the country. That probably exaggerates the true number by a factor of 10. If so, 30,000 dead Iraqis under Saddam's rule is just about equal to the, say, 30,000 or so killed by Bush.

By the way, the Pentagon isn't counting the number of dead Iraqis.
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And no, I do not want to hear about how the 'government' is forcing marijuana prohibition on us. The majority of the people in the U.S. either actively support prohibition or do not care. The 'government' is responding to this desire in it's continued enforcement of drug laws.
So because the "majority of the people in the U.S. either actively support prohibition or do not care" prohibition is not forced on us? I never voted for prohibition, I never voted for a candidate that supported it. But if I try to buy an ounce and a cop see's me, hes going to forcefully detain me. The government is a vauge term, more specifically its people paid by the government that force marijuana prohibition on us. Peace, HN-
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