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Cassius

VolcomStoned: They can if they throw you in jail for it.

 

Lyte it up 420

Yes i think it should end, not just for marijuana but for all drugs. I couldn't help feel a tinge of dissapointment when reading some of these posts of society "erupting in chaos" if all drugs were legalized, i mean here are people who are complaining about the anti-drug people going on and on about how legalizing pot would destroy society, and then you turn around and say the same thing about another drug, of course one that you don't use...its hypocritical, if someone wants to use a drug they should be able to.

Like others i'm not pro drug use i'm pro-choice, and pro-information, its obvious that a large amount of these harder drug users started not really knowing what they were getting into, disbelieving what the government told them because they were lied too about pot. Of course if it was legal people would use it, but it would be a very small minority, and since all these drugs were legal at one point(they didn't just synthesize em and say lets make it illigal) and society didn't crumble when they didn't even know what they were taking, what makes you think it will now if they are properly informed?

If these people could live thier lives high on drugs without hurting anyone(which could be done with the free system, or even a small market for them, and is happening in amsterdam) i say more power to them. I mean how many people in america are addicted to nicotine, caffine, or any of the other various legal or semi-legal drugs out there and live a normal life? Its a little known fact but alcohol/benzo(valim, xanax) withdrawl is more dangerous then heroin withdrawl, as nicotine's dependance is greater then heroin as well(we dont see heroin addicts shooting up every 30-60 minutes do we?).(Source: Jack E. Henningfield, PhD for NIDA, Reported by Philip J. Hilts, New York Times, Aug. 2, 1994 "Is Nicotine Addictive? It Depends on Whose Criteria You Use.")

Now of course you say well ciggarettes or coffee doesn't get you high, you'll still be able to function, yet how many of us marijuana smokers smoke daily and go out and live normal lives blasted out of our heads? Initially the drug might disable you, but once a person gets used to it they are able to function, if they choose too. I saw a documentary once on amsterdam where a church(yes a church) gave out hits of heroin for penny's to addicts, who after shooting up went out to work and do what they had to do...it can be done, its just the mentallity of america to believe, and to try and make others believe that it cannot be done. Its the mentality that if it makes you feel good, it can't be good for you.

Now i'm not saying drugs are good for you, i'm not saying that they don't cause great harm, but honestly nowadays what doesn't? Even walking out of your house into the smog filled polluted environment is detrimental to your health. I agree with the person who talked about methamphetamine, which i think is one of the worste drugs out there(besides maybe pcp), but if a friend of mine wanted to try it, i would do my best to educate him on what it does and the consequences of it rather then threatening to call the police or tell his parents or whatever. And if he decided to do it...thats his choice not mine.

Which is the point of this thread, its thier choice not ours...you people saying how horrible it would be if all drugs were legalized is no better then ashcroft spewing lies about BC bud being the crack of marijuana, or any of the other bull**** propaganda we are forced to hear day in and day out in an attempt to keep pot illigal.

Now alot of people have already gone into detail about the problems of the drug war criminal element so i wont say much except i completly agree, its commen sense. But i am curious to anyone to find a figure of how many people od'd on heroin back when it was legalized and available in controlled dosages. I'd be willing to bet its alot lower then it is today, due to the fact an unregulated market gives the dealer the ability to sell the person ANYTHING, and what could the buyer do complain to the police that he was sold bad heroin? No he goes out and shoots the dealer for ****ing him over.

Then of course there's the people who just use them because it is illigal, the forbidden fruit theory, if its legal the thrill of disobediance is pretty much gone if something is acceptable. I mean kid's smoking ciggarettes in front of high school is a commen accurance that noone even bats an eye at. And of course there will be some who will buy drugs for people, but what person wouldn't think twice about buying heroin or coke for some 15 year old hanging outside a pharmacy?

And even if they did, at least these kids might have the opportunity to be actually informed about doing these drugs, and have access to monitored regulated dosages free of additens.(I read of some crime lord who cut a batch of heroin with battery oil and killed a few thousand addicts in the 80's) Again i'm not for kid's using any type of drugs...but be realistic, if a kid wants to get high he will, wether it be pot, alcohol, nicotine, coke, heroin, cough syrup, or huffing gasoline.

Sorry for the length of this post but it is a topic i am very passionate about, and honestly how are we ever going to get a sensible drug policy when we only care about the one drug that we ourselves use?

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jays4america

What has happened with the drug laws are also what has also happened with most of the laws of this society.
THE LAWS ARE MADE TO PERPETUATE THE PROBLEMS.
I'M SORRY MY FRIENDS, THIS WON'T CHANGE SOON.
If certain recreational drugs were decriminalized there would be thousands of lawyers, cops and prison employees out of work that have supported their families for decades because of these descriminatory and rediculous laws. Not to mention the major hauls of money and property that are turned over to the legal system and are not accounted for nor returned to the citizens as it should be. Keeping drugs illegal continues the cash cow our legal system uses to make their lives comfortable.
Now to the other end of the spectrum: Keeping drugs illegal also guarantees that the black market operators can make HUGE amounts of cash. Who are these b market cats? I'll tell you this, some of them reside in very high places in this country including our govt. They are not all south of the border. True that some of the suppliers would be fine with going legit but most would be pushed out of the loop and would have to find other work.
The red headed step child in this whole thing is the fact that these laws allow the bully cops to routinely harrass and abuse the lower income class of our citizenry. Skin color falls in here also.
WHAT CAN BE DONE???
What can be done other than the pointless lobbying of our lawmakers (and I say pointless because millions of dollars would be needed to make any impact and most users barely scrape up enough cash to buy their favorite stuff)? The best thing right now would be for the organizations that are out there in support of legalized usage to dramatically change their image as typical stoners. An example is the pro-usage group that airs a show on public access in my particular city (and I won't name the city at this point). They come across as a bunch of brain dead, confused stoners to put it bluntly. If this is the image you want to portray then fine, knock yourself out and don't expect any change. We as individuals need to show some responsibility and respect. I could go on here but I hope you get my point.
WHAT ABOUT THE TYPICAL REASONS GIVEN TO CONTINUE ILLEGALIZATION SUCH AS SAFETY AND HEALTH?
More people die from using OTC drugs each year than all the illegals combined. Not to mention tobbaco, alchohol and driving down the road.
If you disagree with me I welcome your input, together we can make a change.

LisaMiller414

The FDA is the biggest drug pimp in the country. They are bought off by big corporations for big dollars. Medicinal marijuana takes away money from painkillers such as oxycontin and percocet. Vicodin itself is one of the top 10 prescribed drugs in the country. Heaven forbid the big drug companies lose a few bucks.
There are medicines in Europe and other regions that are known to help cancer, heart patients, and other major illnesses that the FDA knows damn well would work but they will not approve them if they run up against one of the Big Boys.
It's all about the bottom line dollar. It's sad, cause we down here lose in the long run.

gg27

We have so many other problems in this country. Look at this. Its nuts!

http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm

How many poor families could be housed, fed, given medicine ect... And the countless other things we could be doing with the tax dollars. In addition, the lengths we go to to hide from LEO. I have a soil grow thread over in the sister site. I think about the crap I went through because of this war.

Its nuts - pure insanity

 

Sticky Icky

The war on drugs is a losing battle, you know that cops actually stand on the corners in uniform in the streets of Philly. "Operation Safe Streets" when in actuality the big drugs aren't being sold on the street corners. I know cops that smoke weed, it's not a harmless drug and thas a known fact. Alcohol has more of an effect on the body than weed and yet thats legal, people can socially drink until they're drunk but can't smoke until they're hi. The war on drug should be against drugs that kill: cocaine, crack, heroin, etc. Drugs that have you in a state of mind as to where you don't know what your doin or how to control your body. I have a friend in college from jamiaca who tells me that people smoke weed in jamiaca like people smoke cigarettes over here yet the death rate in jamiaca isn't any larger than the death rate in the United States. You'll be surprised to know how many people smoke weed on the regular and that is why the war on drugs (marijuana) is a losing battle.

MyMed

I do not think the war on drugs should end. We need to get coke, crack, etc. off of the streets. But, the war on marijuana should end.

Gutish

i'm from romania and i'm an heroine addict,i've tryed anny kind of treatment but i can't quit.I heard that you can quit by smoking marijuana but it's verry hard to find,nobody sales marijuana here in romania,what shood i do?

EntheogeniCTHC

The war on drugs is just taking all our money and making marijuana smokers look like killers or big time criminals.

EntheogeniCTHC

I feel very sorry for you man that sucks balls that you cant get weed.