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mbruffee

I would like to emphasize what some people have already mentioned, that is, responsibility. For me, smoking marijuana is different than many of my friends, because I find the concept of smoking a thing that has to be treated with caution and respect for its potential, which is both positive and negative. And since I'm sure most of us here know those effects i won't go into them at length.

The other thing is that since we're on the topic of 'addiction' to cannabis, I do not agree that cannabis is 'addictive' in any way similar to tobacco is addictive, or, our favorite example here, heroine. The thing that makes marijuana 'addictive', in my opinion, is the attitude in which we approach it. Me, I approach the herb with respect, acknowledging its benefits and drawbacks, and so I am able to restrain myself from letting it fall into the same monotonous rhythm as the rest of our daily existance tends to be. The point of it is to alter consciousness, and this consciousness, in order to give beneficial perspective to our normal state, needs to be kept in balance. Of course, this balance will vary from person to person, because of course everyone's habits and situation vary and no two people's lives are exactly the same (like fingerprints).

The other thing i want to touch upon, relating to marijuana use, is that I find that its effects can just as easily be reduced through focus meditation as it can be through medicine such as Strattera (which I am currently on for ADD --no it's not from the weed though that does make it worse). The effects of meditation, however, are far longer lasting than the pills, because the brain's neuralogical pathways actually rearrange themselves through consistant meditation.

That being said, I will mention now that I'm currently on a hiatus from cannabis smoking because I do realize that I'm never going to get into college on pot-induced lowered grades (pot and ADD don't exactly mix, i'm sure everyone knows), and that i'm not as good at functioning as a pot head. I find that my hiatuses (hiatae?) allow me to think about my experiences in a more sober perspective and therefore make discisions about my future pot smoking endeavors.

Though really, I fully support all use of it, seeing no physical addiction in it: but it's addictive if you allow it to be addictive, like anything else. Hey, even the internet is addictive. Any laws about that? No. It's all what you make it.

Peace, love, and marijuana be with you all.

 

ssj3gotenks

I believe that while it may not be physically addicting, it sure can be mentally. This has to do with what i've been saying all along. When someone robs an oz of weed from you knowing how devastated you'd be and how wrong it is, then there is most likely a problem. You can tell me all you want that the robber took it so he wouldn't have had to spend his money, but that's really not the issue here. Marijuana can be very addictive because THC is a psychoactive drug! It's schedule I, which means that it has a high abuse/dependency potential and has no accepted medical use (in the US). Anyway, the reason why these guys robbed me was because they would go to any lengths, no matter how unethical, to get that euphoric feeling that distracted them from their emotional problems.

Mamabudz

It sounds to me like you might be the one devestated by denial of a euphoric feeling to distract you from a painful emotion... Those guys just stole your weed, possibly with the intent to piss you off but more probably to smoke it.

Does mean that what you are suggesting actually applies to you?

And what is the difference between addicition and abuse ...or use and abuse in this scenario?

ssj3gotenks

I have no idea what you are saying, but what i think your saying is that i used to tell myself that i wasn't high or "denial of a euphoric feeling" as you say because i didn't want to be like them.

It's simple: I know that not everyone who uses cannabis is like that. But something just occured to me: how you and other mods on this site defend those who do s*** like that to me. I mean, it pretty much sounds like your saying that this was my fault and i deserved to get robbed. I form from that MB that you rob people or do unmoral things to others and/or still do, and you know why i think that? Because most people who here this from me and other people in my area say that what those 2 guys did was one of the most f***ed up things they've ever heard of. I don't mean to sound like this, but i pretty much get a lot of crap and backtalk from mods of this site, despite yalls claim to be a "community of compassion". I really don't get this at hipforums but on the other hand i really like how informative this site is. I just wish i didn't get so much disrespect when i'm not trolling in any way.

Mamabudz

You are correct. You have no idea what I was saying.

I cannot speak for any other Moderatorbut please be more specific as to how I have have defended anyone's actions...specifically "those who do {expletive deleted}" to you?

Specifically where did I write that?

You appear to be extremely upset and highly volatile therefore we'll ignore that flame; however, having your pot stolen is far from "the most {expletive deleted} up things" I've ever heard -- and believe me, I've heard a great deal .

Sure you do, you are the one choosing the words you write...

Maybe the Mods are trying to communicate something to you about understand oneself and about compassion.

The "hip" forums might be a better choice for you then if you feel that constructive communication is "disrespectful".

Marijuana.com and the marijuana.com network will continue to be a site for information and education.

And now...let us return to the TOPIC of this thread.

 

Buzzby

If a little petty thievery is one of the worst thing they've ever heard of they must lead very sheltered lives. Any TV news broadcast or the front page of any urban newspaper has at least 10 things that are worse than that.

I'm sure you're miffed because someone took your weed but in the great scheme of things it's hardly a blip. Don't be too disappointed that it's not a big deal to anyone here.

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Cassius

I think it sucks that you were robbed. I think the mods would agree with me on that point. But what good does it do anyone for everyone on here to go "cluck cluck, you're right"? This is a site for information, not sympathy, and it seems to me like you are looking for sympathy. While I am sympathetic, I can't simply ignore my duty to spread as accurate of information as I can, and I'm sure that's where everyone else's comments came from -- the desire to dispel misinformation.

Misinformation like, marijuana is illegal because it has a high potential for abuse and has no medical value. Both of those are simply not true.

And misinformation like, they robbed you because they were desperate to get high from your weed. Again, I say that I am sympathetic to your situation and I think that it sucks that it happened to you, as I'm sure most people on here would agree with, but I just don't see that being the reason it happened. The truth is, neither you nor I knows why they did it -- only they know why the did it. I ask you to take a step back and look at why you feel the need to even ask "why" they did it. This is going to sound a little harsh, perhaps, but it sounds to me like you need something to tell yourself that confirms for you that you are a good guy and they are bad guys. You shouldn't need any such confirmation, you seem like a good guy to me and you should be confident of that and just chuck this up to another one of life's unfairnesses. Again, I am completely sympathetic with your plight and I would console anyone who was robbed and tried to make them feel better (especially if they were my friend and were looking for consolation), but remember that this is an INFORMATION site and all of us are here to make sure that accurate information is given out. Shifting the blame from the people who robbed you to the marijuana itself is not only inaccurate information, it's also completely unfair to the millions of users who are mostly if not completely anti-violent. Implying that this is evidence of marijuana's addictive nature is not only jumping to conclusions but is indicative of your desire to find some rational explanation that you can tell yourself so you don't have to think "man the odds just went against me this time and I was the victim of some very bad people".

I've never heard it called that, but I guess you could call us a community of compassion, because most marijuana users are pretty compassionate individuals. However primarily we are a community of information, and every mistruth spoken takes innumerable effort later to correct because we are fighting an uphill battle.

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CardBoardBox

Hmm....Marijuana is not physically addicting like other off topic drugs, is it? Why then, after a few weeks of practically non-stop smoking, and my stash is gone, do I start to feel very edgy?
This is how it goes. I'll buy a quarter or an eighth, and like most of us, I get paid every two weeks. So I smoke every day after classes until bedtime, staying somewhat baked throughout the whole day. A week or so goes by, and soon my stash is all gone and I'm fine-- For the first day of not having any pot. The next four or five days are hell though. I get extreamly moody, depressed, and my whole body aches something feirce, like I've run a marathon and my muscles are worn down... Only it's different. Would this not be 'withdrawal'? O.o Or some weired form of mentally induced withdrawal? >.< Whatever it is it is a major piss off and it's happened to me several times.

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Mamabudz

Correct: It is not physically addicting in that greater and greater amounts of the substance are not required to get the same response nor is it physically addicting in that there physical withdrawl symptoms that cause serious and or debilitating if not life threatening situations

The reason you feel edgy is because marijuana has certain effects besides getting you "stoned".

Marijuana effects your mood -- it is a mood elevator in the form of a euphorant. It is a sleep aid --a soporific. It is an analgesic -- easing body pain. It also effects the digestion and bowels and dreaming.

Remove all of that after dosing your body on marijuana and it's constituent Cannabinoids and it effects your mood, your sleep, the pains in your body, and your digestion.

This passes shortly and is harmless and easily overcome. Proper diet and exercise speeds the process as you adjust to having less outside cannabinoids in your system and only the endogenous naturally occurring cannabinoid like substance anadamide that naturally occurs in all our bodies to deal with stress, pain and other normal functions of the muscle tissue of the gut.

Tayler

couldn't we just as easily ask the question... are u addicted to sex?

I mean seriously i'd say i have a much more strong "addiction" to sex then weed... i mean i love weed. and sex while high is even better... but i think i have the built in urge for sex more then weed...