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Old 11-20-2005, 05:06 AM   #111
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Correct: It is not physically addicting in that greater and greater amounts of the substance are not required to get the same response
What you are describing is "tolerance", and tolerance is definitely a factor for regular marijuana users. I used to hang with people who smoked all day long and didn't get particularly high because they smoked all day, every day. If I smoked a tenth of what they smoked I'd be unconscious.

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Old 11-20-2005, 02:01 PM   #112
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Tolerance Factor is a slightly incorrect and outdated article. One blatant error is stating that Prozac and Valium are both benzodiazepams -- which is simply poor research and taints the entire article.

Tolerance in this instance is referring to the side effects of Cannabis -- and it is the side effects that most people wish to experience. What the article does not address is that simply changing from one strain of cannabis to another will re-introduce the "side effects".

But as for tolerance to the effects of the chemical constituents of cannabis? In that the article is on point in that the body will titrate what it requires and release the rest into the urine to be expelled.
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Old 11-20-2005, 04:11 PM   #113
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Tolerance in this instance is referring to the side effects of Cannabis -- and it is the side effects that most people wish to experience.
You develop tolerance to the stimulative effects, the depressive effects, the physical effects, and the euphoriant effects. If those are all "side effects" what is the primary effect to which you don't develop tolerance?


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What the article does not address is that simply changing from one strain of cannabis to another will re-introduce the "side effects".
Can you support that? All marijuana contains THC, CBD, and CBN in different proportions. How would changing strains reduce tolerance to marijuana's effects?
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:58 AM   #114
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You develop tolerance to the stimulative effects, the depressive effects, the physical effects, and the euphoriant effects. If those are all "side effects" what is the primary effect to which you don't develop tolerance?
The side effect is the "high"

The medicinal effect of the main ingredients is their effect on the body holistically -- Whether you are "high" or not the effect is still positive on glaucoma, asthmatic symtoms and expectoration, the immediate onset euphoriant for depr4ession (which is not synonymous with the "high"), the effect on free-radicals in the brain, and the anti-cancer effect to name a few.

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Can you support that? All marijuana contains THC, CBD, and CBN in different proportions. How would changing strains reduce tolerance to marijuana's effects?
The different proportions that occur in different strains can and do re-establish the feeling of "high" or "stone" even to a heavy smoker.

A medicinal user will often gravitate to the same strain -- grown from clones of the same plant even -- to minimize the effects a new strain has on their "medicine"

When you use Pot as medicine -- you really aren't looking for a wild ride, just relief of your symtoms and the ability to continue functioning at your best level.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:23 AM   #115
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Hmm....Marijuana is not physically addicting like other off topic drugs, is it? Why then, after a few weeks of practically non-stop smoking, and my stash is gone, do I start to feel very edgy?
...I get extreamly moody, depressed, and my whole body aches something feirce, like I've run a marathon and my muscles are worn down... Only it's different. Would this not be 'withdrawal'? O.o Or some weired form of mentally induced withdrawal? >.< Whatever it is it is a major piss off and it's happened to me several times.
I would say that this is a psychological thing. Your dependance on Marijuana for its effects is your choice, and not due to a physical reaction within your body. I would say that MamaBudz is right (is that who said this?) that since your body has been used to higher levels of cannabinoids than usual for a while, it has to adjust to the new, lower levels. In this case, the DEA may have some credit in that the body has a response to a change in cannabinoids levels, though of course they are not wholly right in their portrayal of this change. But back to the psychological thing. Since you've gotten used to being high all the time, you have to adjust to being sober. I've noticed that after only a few days of smoking pot (and only once a day), I don't function well enough. But after a while i'm up to speed again.

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Why then, after a few weeks of practically non-stop smoking, and my stash is gone, do I start to feel very edgy?
I think that this is just a fear of yours. You're so used to having it available and smoking it daily that you feel uncomfortable not having it around. You get edgy because you don't want to be sober. That's my input, anyway.
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Old 12-10-2005, 06:10 PM   #116
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I dont think its addictive. like people stop and start again if it was addictive they could never stop but everyone is able to stop!
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:47 PM   #117
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This is just like every other question in life. Some people wake up every morning to run, some people read a book a week. Everyone has there way of getting high or getting off. It all depends on each individuals life experiences, and defining addicted is a very tough line to draw. I do not neccasarily think that it is addicitive, but some people substitute it for other problems they are having in their life. I have friends that smoke all the time and when they are out they are fine. I have others that when their bag is running low they start to get very edgy. Just depends on the person and what they are trying to accomplish.
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if it was addictive they could never stop but everyone is able to stop!
Being able to stop is not an indication that something isn't addictive. My sister has quit smoking cigarettes at least a dozen times, often for several months at a time.

Things are also addictive to different degrees and produce different levels of distress when an addict ceases to use them. Marijuana is less addictive than coffee. If you are one of the people who is capable of getting addicted to marijuana, the withdrawal symptoms are very mild.
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Agreed.

Heroin can be stopped. Not easily, but it's possible.

Addicting is characterized by something that is psychologically or physically habit forming. This included marijuana.

The argument should be that, Yes, marijuana is addictive. But, it's probably less addictive than sugar, caffeine or alcohol, all of which are legal.
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Agreed.

Heroin can be stopped. Not easily, but it's possible.

Addicting is characterized by something that is psychologically or physically habit forming. This included marijuana.

The argument should be that, Yes, marijuana is addictive. But, it's probably less addictive than sugar, caffeine or alcohol, all of which are legal.
Oddly enough it really is easier to go without MJ than it is to go without my soda and my cigarettes. Someone give me a big pat on the back...or a foot in the ass...whichever you prefer....I've made it 2 weeks now without a toke! And i'm very addicted to weed. It's all psychological for me i believe...addiction comes down to the person's personality.

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