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Gangsta420 · 01-31-2005, 01:05 PM

ok so yeah i started smoking before toking but thats besides the point and i think mary jane came first, this is kind of like which came first the chicken or the egg. Mary came first because god made it and man made smokes.

Richi · 02-07-2005, 09:46 PM

my first puff was a free weed joint my friend gave me... but soon after i tried smoking, just to compare.

and my conclusion: GO WEED!

jewishjake420 · 02-07-2005, 09:48 PM

I still don't understand how people can compare weed to cigarettes. One gets you high while the other doesn't. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which one is better.

SonicDaChronic · 02-16-2005, 08:41 AM

i tried a ciggie forst but never started smoking. i tried weed and then continued smoking lol. so ciggie was first smoked but mj was first toked...and toked....and toked

jaman · 02-16-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jewishjake420

I still don't understand how people can compare weed to cigarettes. One gets you high while the other doesn't. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which one is better.

Yea but , that wasnt the question ?

Higher Logic · 02-21-2005, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jewishjake420

I still don't understand how people can compare weed to cigarettes. One gets you high while the other doesn't. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which one is better.

I guess you have to be a cigarette smoker to understand. It's not the most addictive substance out there for a reason, more so than cocaine and crack. In fact, it has a 100 mark on the addictive scale. I should find that...

Well, this isn't it, the one I'm looking for has lots of drugs on it, and goes from 0 to 100, but oh well.

Code:

1 = Most serious           6 = Least serious

Henningfield Ratings

Substance    Withdrawal    Reinforcement    Tolerance    Dependence    Intoxication

Nicotine         3              4               2            1              5
Heroin           2              2               1            2              2
Cocaine          4              1               4            3              3
Alcohol          1              3               3            4              1
Caffeine         5              6               5            5              6
Marijuana        6              5               6            6              4


Benowitz Ratings

Substance    Withdrawal    Reinforcement    Tolerance    Dependence    Intoxication

Nicotine         3*             4               4            1              6
Heroin           2              2               2            2              2
Cocaine          3*             1               1            3              3
Alcohol          1              3               4            4              1
Caffeine         4              5               3            5              5
Marijuana        5              6               5            6              4

* Equal ratings

Withdrawal Presence and severity of characteristic withdrawal symptoms. 
Reinforcement A measure of the substance's ability, in human and animal tests, to get users to take it again and again, and in preference to other substances. 

Tolerance How much of the substance is needed to satisfy increasing cravings for it, and the level of stable need that is eventually reached. 

Dependence How difficult it is for the user to quit, the relapse rate, the percentage of people who eventually become dependent, the rating users give their own need for the substance and the degree to which the substance will be used in the face of evidence that it causes harm. 

Intoxication Though not usually counted as a measure of addiction in itself, the level of intoxication is associated with addiction and increases the personal and social damage a substance may do.

baked&confused · 02-25-2005, 07:47 AM

i started out on cigs when i was around 13-14, steadily around 17-18, and didn't get the first taste of the herb until i was almost 21! i still smoke, and i'm currently in the process of quitting... thank god i have the green to help me out! i'll smoke until i can't anymore.... then i'll just have it injected somehow

jaman · 02-25-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baked&confused

i'll smoke until i can't anymore.... then i'll just have it injected somehow

that's cool man , I like that , me too , please inject me with the herb when I can no longer reach for my bong

Maybe we should just take them there THC pills the government already makes !!

IMPerfection · 03-15-2005, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by EntheogeniCTHC

I really dont remeber but I voted cannabis enyway

that's what i just did... sorry

grillmeats · 03-15-2005, 11:32 PM

Didn't the natives of this continent smoke peyote and marijuna out of the peace pipe. The white man brought tobacco into the south because of the climate. Then the Native Americans' mixed them. If you ever smoked a REAL CUBAN cigar you'd know the adrenilan rush and alertness they provide. No I don't smoke tobacco, but I will Smoke A Good Cuban Cigar Anytime. I'm sure the government with all the rules they have on the tobacco industry in this country, has reduced the affectiveness of the product.

Yet now that it has become part of our economy, since WW

II, there is less land so it is mass produced, in less time. It has become diluted over the years, that is why a Cigar from Cuba is special to me. I like smoking them before I go out for the night. I don't even have to smoke the whole cigar, I smoke the rest of the Cigar the next day, before work, it makes the day go by faster.

View Poll Results: Which did you use first?
Tobacco	753	40.95%
Cannabis	1020	55.46%
Neither	66	3.59%
Voters: 1839. You may not vote on this poll

02-07-2005, 09:46 PM	#62
Richi Modern Day Psychonaut Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,803 Grams: 8,322.08 Groans: 6 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts Thanks: 886 Thanked 910 Times in 323 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: -1.000%	my first puff was a free weed joint my friend gave me... but soon after i tried smoking, just to compare. and my conclusion: GO WEED! __________________ 1000 things to do while stoned, and more... ...From The Lounge.....

02-07-2005, 09:48 PM	#63
jewishjake420 Jr. Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 210 Grams: 1,612.55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I still don't understand how people can compare weed to cigarettes. One gets you high while the other doesn't. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which one is better. __________________ awaa? -S. Cooper "There's a blaze of light in every word, it doesn't matter which you heard, the holy or the broken HALLELUJAH"

02-16-2005, 08:41 AM	#64
SonicDaChronic Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 301 Grams: 2,405.73 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	i tried a ciggie forst but never started smoking. i tried weed and then continued smoking lol. so ciggie was first smoked but mj was first toked...and toked....and toked __________________ MARIJUANA: Keeping children on the couch, NOT on the streets!

03-15-2005, 11:32 PM	#70
grillmeats No Longer Active Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,696 Grams: 2,607.77 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 39 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Early America Didn't the natives of this continent smoke peyote and marijuna out of the peace pipe. The white man brought tobacco into the south because of the climate. Then the Native Americans' mixed them. If you ever smoked a REAL CUBAN cigar you'd know the adrenilan rush and alertness they provide. No I don't smoke tobacco, but I will Smoke A Good Cuban Cigar Anytime. I'm sure the government with all the rules they have on the tobacco industry in this country, has reduced the affectiveness of the product. Yet now that it has become part of our economy, since WW II, there is less land so it is mass produced, in less time. It has become diluted over the years, that is why a Cigar from Cuba is special to me. I like smoking them before I go out for the night. I don't even have to smoke the whole cigar, I smoke the rest of the Cigar the next day, before work, it makes the day go by faster. __________________ I use to like this site, but it out grew my interests. If you want to pass a test, Quit Smoking, I have!

01-31-2005, 01:05 PM	#61
Gangsta420 New Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10 Grams: 799.35 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	ok so yeah i started smoking before toking but thats besides the point and i think mary jane came first, this is kind of like which came first the chicken or the egg. Mary came first because god made it and man made smokes.

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02-25-2005, 07:47 AM	#67
baked&confused New Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3 Grams: 798.40 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	i started out on cigs when i was around 13-14, steadily around 17-18, and didn't get the first taste of the herb until i was almost 21! i still smoke, and i'm currently in the process of quitting... thank god i have the green to help me out! i'll smoke until i can't anymore.... then i'll just have it injected somehow

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