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| I do think it easily can be. It depends on why you smoke it in the first place. If you take it to get realy "fucked up" or whatnot, then your more likely to try other things to get "fucked up". Actually, now that I think about it, maybe not. atleast not the way the goverment potrays it to be. Your not going to start doing coke because your tolorence is high. I have heard that from the gov. before, That you have to smoke more and more to get the same feeling, and then you start using other stuff to feel the same way. I think thats bullshit. It's like the anti-marijuana folks use the gateway drug theory because they can't use tangable proof. ahh I don't know what I think, Im kinda baked right now so exuse the weirdness. |
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| The fact that some people start using other drugs after they use marijuana doesn't make marijuana a "gateway drug". If that were true then milk is the gateway drug: everyone drank milk before they did anything else. As the previous posted implied, the common root to recreational drug use for a lot of people is the desire to get "fucked up". If you eat a burger and than have a taste for ice cream, the burger didn't "cause" you to want ice cream. The urge to eat either of them has the same root cause: hunger. Human beings seem to have an innate desire to play with their consciousness. Every culture with access to them has its approved recreational drugs. The desire to modify consciousness is the true gateway to the use of all recreational drugs.
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That all being said....Here's my opinion on the subject at hand...I don't believe that is a gateway drug in the true sence of the term, meaning that people are looking for a "bigger, better, or more intense high." However it is a gateway drug if you understand that once a person smokes , gets high, likes the feeling, and then wants to try some other off topic, to try a "different" high, rather than a more intense one. In fact...the fact that the off topic substance is more intense may cause second thoughts. But....the way I see it as a gateway is that once you know a dealer....odds are that person does, or knows someone who does deal with other off topics if you were so interested. I hope my opinion is clear and makes sence. I'm incredibly distracted watching tv while I type this...but I think it all makes sence!-Bytemee495 | |
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| Milk is the real gateway drug. Every hard drug addict I've ever known started with drinking milk. ![]() Just because one thing precedes another does not imply that the first thing somehow caused the second. In the world of logic, this is know as the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy. The gateway drug speculation has been scientifically debunked many times. Exposing Marijuana Myths: A Review of the Scientific Evidence: Marijuana is a "Gateway" Drug |
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| Alcohol,and tobacco will likely always be the true gateway drugs. I didn't smoke weed til I had plenty of experience with the other two substances. Yes, I experiemented with plenty of other drugs after trying weed, but that was NOT the fault of marijuanba. it was a result of my experimental nature. I don't like being TOLD how a particular substance feels, I need to experiment it first hand if it interests me. Them only regard in which marijuana facilitated my later experimentation is that it put me into contact with "the drug world" and introduced me to people who could provide other drugs (a major argument for mj's legalization, IMO)
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| I think weed is a gateway drug, but not in the way that it is typically regarded. Marijuana, for a lot of teenagers, is the threshold between trust and mistrust of authority. For our entire childhoods, we are indoctrinated with Drug War propaganda, so much to the point that it becomes almost an Orwellian brainwashing scenario. Think about some of the anti-marijuana people you know. Some of them hold opinions and information pools straight out of D.A.R.E., having never done research on the topic themselves. Their opinion is literally the opinion of The Man. Think about that in contrast to the pro-marijuana people you know. They base their knowledge on a variety of sources: anti-drug programs, self-led research, and personal experience. Why did they choose to carry out a personal experience with something that the government told them was dangerous? Because they no longer trusted the government. At some point after we become adults, we have an experience in our lives which convinces us that the government, our parents, and other figures of authority have lied to us. People we were expected to love and obey unconditionally betrayed us. Sometimes we discover it for ourselves; other times, we are helped along by the media, which often attempts to subvert the government (e.g. The Daily Show, Cheech and Chong, etc...). So what did we do in response to a new sense of mistrust? We started holding our cards close to the chest. We lied back. We became cunning. And authority no longer had our unquestioning obedience. If you know somebody is a liar, it's hard to trust them to be truthful with anything. So take your average person who started with pot and progressed to other drugs. Most people start using drugs with pot because it's a) cheap, b) rather easily accessible in most areas, and c) the least dangerous, even more so than tobacco and alcohol. So they turn to personal experience, and with pot (as most of us know first-hand) the personal experience is typically positive. So the government told us that something was bad, we tried it, and it was good. So some of us, more daring and more disobedient, say to ourselves: If the government says pot is bad and I try it and it's good, then they might be lying when they say cocaine is bad...or ecstasy...or heroin... Pot may be the first illegal drug that most people try, but for many people, it isn't the last one. This is why pot has gained the title of gateway drug. It is not the same as a causation of the progression to harder drugs, but rather a liberating personal experience which some people long to recreate in different manners. The real gateway drug is government propaganda.
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| I think it is, because you become associated with people who sell drugs and new things become available for you to buy. I don't mind though, other drugs can be used safely and with moderation and not be harmful
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| I've smoked weed for 7 years, and I've never even thought of trying anything else. I'm perfectly happy with the way that I feel when I smoke, and I don't have any desire to try anything else. I'm not going to put the bong down and start firing dope, I'll just smoke more weed... |
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| Absolutely not. Not as a blanket statement, at least. It`s all circumstance and context. If anything, cannabis is a gateway drug because its illicit status exposes users to other illicit drugs.
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| No, I do not. Most people start out on tobacco, not marijuana. So, in my opinion, nicotine is the gateway drug. Not always, but a lot of the time, marijuana comes after someone starts using tobacco.
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