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The Neo-Cons & Bush. 20 32.26%
Al-Qaeda. 17 27.42%
I have no Idea what the truth is. 21 33.87%
Anyone who questions what they tell us is a traitor. 4 6.45%
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:31 PM   #1
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Default Who is responsible for 9/11?

I know I'm going out on a limb here but I really believe that Bush had something to do with 9/11.

I too was one of the skeptics! I read for years about conspiricy theories about 9/11 and all this junk but I never believed any of it. Recently I noticed that this video was number 1 on video.google.com. I decided to watch it and it totally changed my perspective.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62628848&q=911

I thought it was disrespectful to all the families who lost someone on 9/11 to even pay attention to the conspiricies because it just didn't seem right to me. They went through so much that seems to be to be an insult to even humor the thought, "All your pain was caused by someone who might have voted for."

I've been on a bit of a kick lately watching all these 9/11 videos. Here are some other good ones that provide even more information.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...87461603&q=911
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...67284154&q=911
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=police+state
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...678922201999&q
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...chology+of+911
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:42 PM   #2
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Bush is only responsible because he is an idiot. Someone probably told him but he was too stupid to understand. < I love these things.
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People from the plane living a in a secret nasa research facility? Oh come the fuck on and wake up.

It is ripe with factual inaccuracies and convenient omissions. I appreciate that there is someone out there who tries to get to the truth and present this information they find to the public. But I just don't think this theory makes all that much sense.

I do think our government holds responsibility in letting its people down. However I could not imagine that our government no matter how ruthless, ignorant and decietful they are could have murdered thousands upon thousands of its own citizens in cold blood. Especially not as a pretext to war or anything of the like.

Just look how shitty the pretext for Iraq was, there is no way someone thought this up so we could invade west bumblefuck Afghanistan and take out some ak47 wielding taliban dipshits.

If our government pulled off this fantastic scheme of switching airplanes, cruise missles, demolition explosives and tricking the american people into believing it we certainly should be doing much better in Iraq and keeping other secrets. Not to mention getting hundreds possibly thousands of americans needed to undertake such a feat that would have to keep quiet about one of the most horrifying events in recent history and the murder of thousands of their fellow citizens.

You would have to believe that not only the government which is disconnected from its people was in on this but its people themselves both military and civilian working class people were in on killing their brothers and sisters. And to me that is the insult.
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:57 PM   #4
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Bush is only responsible because he is an idiot. Someone probably told him but he was too stupid to understand. < I love these things.

my guess is an ancient tribe of jews whom were banished from the holy land, You control the holy land you can control the world. This gang started w/ 70 elders or pharisees. At the base of Mt. S where the ten commandment were written or found. Apparently this gang of 70 pharacies were given spoken language guidelines which supersede the [material ten commandments. Which relates to the pharisees The source of their knowledge and how many people these 70 rulers spread out througout Africa and ruled as the king pharaohs, w/ close relationships w/ the shamans/shamanka or like the king and the goldsmiths/blacksmiths/bankers in which they conducted business or like our current Federal Reserve(which is theft and should be illegal,they have robbed us of humanity). If i had money like bill gates i would buy everyone a house in however many states i could with the money and the only deal is that i would never need anything again cuase everyone would help/love me for giving them a house and money. I could walk across the land with no worries except the truth or present. pardon the stoner momment. And don't get me wrong this is only history of like 2,000 years or so...not the history of humans, whom lived millions of years. . I believe these 70 members spread all over the world not just Africa. Still all we have left are generalities and no way of knowing the conversations of these famous historians. I'm not talking cults you freaky pot smokers, I'm talking history and only time can determine the truth which will not be hidden or lied about, you won't be able to conceal the truth and it will reign.

These pharisees are considered a gang by modern language. I believe they are the part of the biggest gangs in the world. Thats why we currently are divided, the gangs have gotten too big, yet we can't escape their precence.

The bible means alot of things to alot of people and my seem like the truth to each individual. thats the power of jesus, the savior from the massive gang precense/mentality in which we live. Whom will protect you from the lies and untruths. Instead of reading the bible as literal, read it astrologically and make the connections.


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In other words, i believe an ancient gang is responsible for 9/11.
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Old 06-22-2006, 07:08 PM   #5
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People from the plane living a in a secret nasa research facility? Oh come the fuck on and wake up.

It is ripe with factual inaccuracies and convenient omissions. I appreciate that there is someone out there who tries to get to the truth and present this information they find to the public. But I just don't think this theory makes all that much sense.

I do think our government holds responsibility in letting its people down. However I could not imagine that our government no matter how ruthless, ignorant and decietful they are could have murdered thousands upon thousands of its own citizens in cold blood. Especially not as a pretext to war or anything of the like.

Just look how shitty the pretext for Iraq was, there is no way someone thought this up so we could invade west bumblefuck Afghanistan and take out some ak47 wielding taliban dipshits.

If our government pulled off this fantastic scheme of switching airplanes, cruise missles, demolition explosives and tricking the american people into believing it we certainly should be doing much better in Iraq and keeping other secrets. Not to mention getting hundreds possibly thousands of americans needed to undertake such a feat that would have to keep quiet about one of the most horrifying events in recent history and the murder of thousands of their fellow citizens.

You would have to believe that not only the government which is disconnected from its people was in on this but its people themselves both military and civilian working class people were in on killing their brothers and sisters. And to me that is the insult.
you have to understand the mentality of these pharaohs. This is the whole gang division between a sect of jews and christianity, the people whom recieved and followed the verbal code and were kicked out of the holy land because of their barbarity, these are the days after the cannonites..Jesus preached agaisnt these kings/pharicees through the middle east/Africa. this verbal code was supposivley rumored to have been written down as "Protocols of Zion" or "Babylonian Talmud". such an action is similar to the zulu shaman Credo mutwa whom exposes the secrets of the shamans. Someone kills your family member you would retaliate, well these people are the real killers the chosen people of the truth. YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO KILL A FAMILY member and they're there saying hey were the real killers here, youre just a genile,goy, cattle,. Its the War machine, its the whole system which is divided amongst itself.

there is released official governement documents which specifically state acts of terrorism to get their position in the world. Someone will back that up with the fact that our government high officals read this document and it was purposed by other government members.
There are millions of people like you hauptmann who have the same gang belief, yet when the truth is found out, you have to have rebel or demand action on someone/something to maintain that gang mentality.

the truth is out there no not there.....out there.....
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Old 06-22-2006, 07:29 PM   #6
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And I thought the video was out there. Sounds like you've been reading a little too much Dan Brown to me. Christians, Muslims, Jews and people of many other faiths and levels of social strata died on that day. Do you have any factual information to support your claims? Because using a larger font size does not increase the truthiness factor.
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Truthiness rocks, but not as much as Occam's Razor. It's a sharp sumbitch.

I swear you conspiracy theorists just want to have teh government be at fault for something... Anything....

If you want to put any blame on the US government for 9/11, put it on Congress for not supporting Clinton's desire to go after bin laden while he was President. Perhaps you could go further back and blame Bush Sr. or Reagan for funding the Taliban to help them ward off Soviet invaders back in the 80s.
But that shit was all before most of you were born, so it could possibly have any bearing on an event that was a mere six years ago....
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And I thought the video was out there. Sounds like you've been reading a little too much Dan Brown to me. Christians, Muslims, Jews and people of many other faiths and levels of social strata died on that day. Do you have any factual information to support your claims? Because using a larger font size does not increase the truthiness factor.
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the larger text is easier on the eyes....
AS far as the factual claims are still debated today by respected Rabbi if its true.
I found some of the important facts in the theory in a Synagog Library. The Jewish Encyclopedia contains a document that codeified the verbal revelation as the Babylonian Talmud.
Go to your local synagog and research these authoritative books....
The Universal Jewish Encyclopaedia, The Jewish Encyclopaedia,Encyclopaedia of Judaica

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/index.jsp
http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ishmael,edom,israel.php
http://www.snunit.k12.il/njeru/eb32s.htm
http://www.asu.edu/lib/resources/db/ejudaica.htm


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I swear you conspiracy theorists just want to have teh government be at fault for something... Anything....

If you want to put any blame on the US government for 9/11, put it on Congress for not supporting Clinton's desire to go after bin laden while he was President. Perhaps you could go further back and blame Bush Sr. or Reagan for funding the Taliban to help them ward off Soviet invaders back in the 80s.
But that shit was all before most of you were born, so it could possibly have any bearing on an event that was a mere six years ago....
or go ever farther than that and you got the Other Isreal inhabbited by certain religous tribes, i could think alot of people to blame but its not the truth....

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So you want me to find your evidence for you in a synagogue even though the exact evidence(implication of this group in 9/11) of which you make no direct mention of is up for debate between a viral disease that causes encephalitis? Yeah, sorry I'm not going to take your claim on this being some far fetched religious plot hatched from within the government when you can't even spell Rabbi.

And no the text does not make it easier on the eyes.
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Truthiness rocks, but not as much as Occam's Razor. It's a sharp sumbitch.

I swear you conspiracy theorists just want to have teh government be at fault for something... Anything....

If you want to put any blame on the US government for 9/11, put it on Congress for not supporting Clinton's desire to go after bin laden while he was President. Perhaps you could go further back and blame Bush Sr. or Reagan for funding the Taliban to help them ward off Soviet invaders back in the 80s.
But that shit was all before most of you were born, so it could possibly have any bearing on an event that was a mere six years ago....
Did you watch the video? Osama Bin Laden was treated at an American hospital in Dubai on 7-14-01 (or was it 7-16?) and met with the CIA. They had him right then and there if they wanted him. Even if Al Qaeda carried out the attack (which they didn't) that information alone is enough to blame Bush for everything. Yet nothing happens, nobody wants to admit we could have been lied to on such a major level. But the bigger the lie the more likely the masses are to believe it...Hitler said so himself.
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