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JnEverett · 09-07-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaDornta

Will you draw the line when racial profiling results in ethnic groups rounded up and herded into "holding facilities"? (these are actually being built by Halliburton all over the US right now)...

I found an article on the holding facilities. Very interesting, I think every american citizen should read this article!

DaDornta · 09-09-2006, 06:59 PM

Well...

Dr. Jones at BYU has been put on "administrative leave" pending his own investigation bout 9/11...he is being pressured to "cease and assist"...

Remember folks, it has been PROVEN that sulfides were found on the steel of the WTC. This can ONLY be from Thermite (used in US Millitary-Patented devices) which is used to cut/burn through industrial steel.

Additionally, jet fuel is pretty much Kerosene....The gas burning would have had to have been over 1000 degrees hotter to even *begin* to weaken the structural integrity of the steel collums.

Oh, and what about Tower 7? ... It wasn hit with any debris...and yet it fell just like a "controlled demolition" ... after both towers went down.

The small inner-circle of people at the highest eschelons of the Government must think we are moronic sheep...and as more and more people start to go, "hey wait a minute..." the public fervor and outrage swells up about "insulting the memory of the hereos!"...

The Government LET these so called "hereos" of the fire and police departments clean and rescue people even when they had an initial report saying that the air was heavily contaminated with asbestos and mercury (from all the thousands of thermostats)...

So now all the search and rescue dogs used in 9/11 are dead of bizare and mysterious lung cancers/diseases -- as well as thousands of police and fireman...

The people making the "ultimate" decisions at the very tippy-top could give a rats-ass about you. People, wake up...really...at least stay informed so you know when to "bail" out of western society completley...I'm getting ready to totally take myself off the radar.

If I have to live inside a hollowed out tree in a national forrest ... that's what I'll do...

Jake · 09-09-2006, 07:16 PM

The line has been crosse.d The second I turn 18, I am buying weapons. I'm also seriously looking into going to Alaska. I think freedom still exists up there, man. If freedom doesn't exist up there, I'll still have my guns.

When they kick at your front door, how're you gonna come?
With your hands on your head or on the trigger of your gun?
When the law breaks in, how're you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement or waiting on death row?

You can crush us
You can bruise us
But you'll have to answer to
Oh the guns of Brixton

DaDornta · 09-09-2006, 07:49 PM

And remember folks.... despite what they "teach us" ...

FREEDOM IS FREE

Remember the Declaration of Independance?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."

What happened to the patriotic spirit of Americans? These people (our founding fathers) were much more akin to ourselves today than we realize. . .

***Plainsman1963*** · 09-09-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaDornta

Dr. Jones at BYU has been put on "administrative leave" pending his own investigation bout 9/11...he is being pressured to "cease and assist"...

Dr. Jones? Dr. Steven Jones? The co-founder of the scholars for 9/11 truth?

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Their most famous member, and co-founder, is Steven Jones, a physicist at Brigham Young University. He has become famous for publishing a paper on the WTC collapse. Thus far this paper though, has only been reviewed, not in a journal on physics, or structural engineering, but in a Marxist journal of political economy. BYU itself has rejected his work. Dr. Jones primary research has been, not in structural engineering or the reaction of metals to heat, but in cold fusion, which even in the physics community is regarded as bordering on alchemy. Even more bizarrely, his other famous published work was one right out of the World Weekly News, claiming that Jesus visited Central America based on ancient Indian artwork.

Currently, S9/11T has four categories of members: full members (FM), who have or have had academic appointments or the equivalent;

I compiled the list of members and categorized them by specialty, position and institution, which actually was rather difficult. Oddly enough many of the members don't list their qualifications or university, which is quite strange, since every professor I have ever met is more than happy to go on for hours about their academic credentials.

I came up with a list of 76 members, expecting it to be full of Ivy League engineers and distinguished Middle Eastern scholars, experts bent on proving that the US government, and not Osama bin Laden attacked the World Trade Centers. I was wrong.

Out of the 76 "experts" the most common academic discipline was philosophy, with 9 members, including a co-founder. Since 7 members did not even list an academic discipline, this was 1/7 of their credentialed membership. English/literature and psychology came in next with 5 members each. Even theology and "humanities" came in with 4 and 3 members respectively. Among actual scientific fields, physics was way in front, with 5 members, including the aforementioned Dr. Jones. I am not sure as to their academic credentials though, at least one of the "physicists", Jeffrey Farrer, isn't even a professor, he is a lab manager at BYU. One has to wonder whether Steven Jones' janitor is also listed as an associate member?

So how many engineers do they have? Out of the 76, a grand total of 2. Jean-Pierre Petit, a French aeronautical engineer, who despite the obvious handicap of being French actually seems to have a relevant qualification. Curiously enough though, he doesn't seem to have written a single word on 9/11. He has written though, on a mysterious plot by the US military to bomb Jupiter with anti-matter weapons!

The second engineer is Judy Wood, who has been mentioned in the comments here for her bizarre billiard ball from the top of the World Trade Center theory. OK, Ms. Wood is an actual Mechanical Engineer at Clemson, but thus far her work has been primarily focused on the stresses of dentistry. A fascinating field no doubt, but hardly relevant to planes crashing into buildings.

So how many structural engineers are listed? Absolutely zero. How many experts in Middle Eastern studies, or the Arabic language? Also zero. But they do have a professor of social work!

So I thought, maybe I am being too narrow minded? Maybe these are just America's best and brightest minds, even if they are working out of their fields of specialty. Noam Chomsky at least, regardless of what you think of his kooky politics, is a respected professor of linguistics at MIT. So I looked up this list of the top 20 universities in the world (17 located in the US) from the Economist, expecting to find the schools of our distinguished scholars to be well represented on it.

Wrong. A total of one professor, Kevin Barrett, a Professor of Folk Lore at the University of Wisconsin-Madison was represented.

Total number of "scholars" from the Ivy League, zero. Total number of "scholars" from Tunxcis Community College, one.

Source.

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Remember folks, it has been PROVEN that sulfides were found on the steel of the WTC. This can ONLY be from Thermite (used in US Millitary-Patented devices) which is used to cut/burn through industrial steel.

Show me, show me, show me the proof.

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Additionally, jet fuel is pretty much Kerosene....The gas burning would have had to have been over 1000 degrees hotter to even *begin* to weaken the structural integrity of the steel collums.

Hmm...Offer of Proof?
Here's mine:

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With the fire proofing blown off, the fire only needed as little as 600 degrees C to deform the naked truss steel.

Source.

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Oh, and what about Tower 7? ... It wasn hit with any debris...

It wasn't?

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because while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open it easily tilted over to reach building 7.

So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

Source.

I'm all for putting responsibility where it is supposed to be. But I also can't leave rational thinking on the side to get there. Somebody show me some proof.
Not supposition. Not conjecture. Proof.

If anybody really thinks this "conspiracy" could have been kept secret, I have a list of all the folks that would have to be "in on it" to pull it off.
Lots of folks on that list. Just not rational to believe the same government that can't keep NSA programs, etc. secret can keep this one.

DaDornta · 09-09-2006, 11:56 PM

Plains...

They don't use asbestos fire-proofing in kerosone-burning heaters...and they never suffer from "melting".

NIST Data Disproves Collapse Theories Based on Fire

WTC 7: A Short Computation

You have your sources, I have mine. My sources don't try and attack the integrity of their opponents though, usually that's a sign of weakness and desperation to convince another individual.

**dedbr** · 09-10-2006, 12:32 AM

the chances of you surviving on your own, without very specialized training are slim and none. It would be worth your while to check into some training available around you, and some basic survival skills.

It's way too easy to die and you are way too far from prepared.......sorry Da, but that's my opinion, and I am an expert.

If any one wants I'll run down some simple stuff.....

If fascism takes over our country, as it may to continue the "safety" program it has in place, then a person may feel the need to cut himself off from the public the way you say Da. To be unprepared is to be shear folly. You will probably be dead within days. There are end of days scenarios written into good books for survivalists to read if your interested you should also take a look at some of those.

The survivalist should live for not coming back. The psychological problems associated with that are dangerous in and of themselves. Also to be remembered tho, is that society will evolve, it always does, and not all of it will be insane. There will still be good places to live and learn.

Some Where In Ded Land......I hope, anyway.....

DaDornta · 09-10-2006, 12:38 AM

Like I said Ded, (lol) ive lived in AK my whole life...ive gone through to many survival classes to count. Getting my Eagle was probably one of the smartest things I could have done.

THC Fiend · 09-10-2006, 01:11 AM

DADORNTA!

You're way too old school man.

Why don't you do like me, and create a portal into a parallel universe. That way when shit really hits the wall (not literally of course, that would be a mess to clean), I just hop into my laundry basket and fly through well, nothing, but eventually to a place where the hippies hop freely, cheetahs enjoy skateboarding, trees are considered a sex object and, most importantly, George Bush is used as toilet paper.

All you need to create one of these portals is, well, a laundry basket of course...

-diet sprite (with all traces of lime removed; extremely important!)
-a frisbee
-toothpaste heated to 300 Degrees Celcius
-a couple of batteries

Just play around with those materials for a while and you'll be set!

Also, I would suggest bringing a pillow, a porn mag, and some Kleenex (because of the porn mag, of course).

Basically I'm just trying to stay in this Universe for as long as possible... I'm awaiting that fateful day when I must man-up, and take a wild ride in my laundry basket.

HOOORAY!

DaDornta · 09-10-2006, 08:56 AM

I already do live in alternate universes. Each night when I go to bed I travel into a lucid dreaming state in which I can fly, fuck bitches all night...whatever. The sad thing is that no matter how many times I travel to these places in sleep--each dream seems to be another seperate and unique "reality".

When I wakeup however, I am presented with the same reality in which I will soon become a slave to the power that "be". (notice im not saying NWO or some other wacko shit...just ppl that want to keep me from being peacefull, humble ME)

I can't even remember where this post was going so i'll contiune after a much-needed munchie snack!

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09-09-2006, 06:59 PM	#22
DaDornta Techno-Neo-Shaman Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,610 Grams: 7,580.83 Groans: 5 Groaned at 28 Times in 8 Posts Thanks: 189 Thanked 202 Times in 106 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Well... Dr. Jones at BYU has been put on "administrative leave" pending his own investigation bout 9/11...he is being pressured to "cease and assist"... Remember folks, it has been PROVEN that sulfides were found on the steel of the WTC. This can ONLY be from Thermite (used in US Millitary-Patented devices) which is used to cut/burn through industrial steel. Additionally, jet fuel is pretty much Kerosene....The gas burning would have had to have been over 1000 degrees hotter to even begin to weaken the structural integrity of the steel collums. Oh, and what about Tower 7? ... It wasn hit with any debris...and yet it fell just like a "controlled demolition" ... after both towers went down. The small inner-circle of people at the highest eschelons of the Government must think we are moronic sheep...and as more and more people start to go, "hey wait a minute..." the public fervor and outrage swells up about "insulting the memory of the hereos!"... The Government LET these so called "hereos" of the fire and police departments clean and rescue people even when they had an initial report saying that the air was heavily contaminated with asbestos and mercury (from all the thousands of thermostats)... So now all the search and rescue dogs used in 9/11 are dead of bizare and mysterious lung cancers/diseases -- as well as thousands of police and fireman... The people making the "ultimate" decisions at the very tippy-top could give a rats-ass about you. People, wake up...really...at least stay informed so you know when to "bail" out of western society completley...I'm getting ready to totally take myself off the radar. If I have to live inside a hollowed out tree in a national forrest ... that's what I'll do... __________________ Being Broke: My Anti-Drug DaDornta Dot Net Join Date: Sep 2003 Never been a Moderator...never want to be.. Rick let's me stay at his leisure.

09-09-2006, 07:16 PM	#23
Jake Sr. Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,488 Grams: 15,316.49 Groans: 38 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts Thanks: 302 Thanked 839 Times in 531 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: -1.000%	The line has been crosse.d The second I turn 18, I am buying weapons. I'm also seriously looking into going to Alaska. I think freedom still exists up there, man. If freedom doesn't exist up there, I'll still have my guns. When they kick at your front door, how're you gonna come? With your hands on your head or on the trigger of your gun? When the law breaks in, how're you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement or waiting on death row? You can crush us You can bruise us But you'll have to answer to Oh the guns of Brixton __________________

09-10-2006, 12:32 AM	#27
dedbr Domestic War Veteran Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,921 Grams: 47,113.85 Groans: 11 Groaned at 22 Times in 15 Posts Thanks: 2,464 Thanked 2,279 Times in 1,027 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	In an extreme survival situation...... the chances of you surviving on your own, without very specialized training are slim and none. It would be worth your while to check into some training available around you, and some basic survival skills. It's way too easy to die and you are way too far from prepared.......sorry Da, but that's my opinion, and I am an expert. If any one wants I'll run down some simple stuff..... If fascism takes over our country, as it may to continue the "safety" program it has in place, then a person may feel the need to cut himself off from the public the way you say Da. To be unprepared is to be shear folly. You will probably be dead within days. There are end of days scenarios written into good books for survivalists to read if your interested you should also take a look at some of those. The survivalist should live for not coming back. The psychological problems associated with that are dangerous in and of themselves. Also to be remembered tho, is that society will evolve, it always does, and not all of it will be insane. There will still be good places to live and learn. Some Where In Ded Land......I hope, anyway..... __________________ Sometimes you can cut your own throat with your tongue..... So remember to check out our most wonderful Posting Guidelines!

09-10-2006, 01:11 AM	#29
THC Fiend Wonko the Sane Tournaments Won: 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,346 Grams: 5,111.30 Groans: 5 Groaned at 10 Times in 6 Posts Thanks: 119 Thanked 227 Times in 142 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	DADORNTA! You're way too old school man. Why don't you do like me, and create a portal into a parallel universe. That way when shit really hits the wall (not literally of course, that would be a mess to clean), I just hop into my laundry basket and fly through well, nothing, but eventually to a place where the hippies hop freely, cheetahs enjoy skateboarding, trees are considered a sex object and, most importantly, George Bush is used as toilet paper. All you need to create one of these portals is, well, a laundry basket of course... -diet sprite (with all traces of lime removed; extremely important!) -a frisbee -toothpaste heated to 300 Degrees Celcius -a couple of batteries Just play around with those materials for a while and you'll be set! Also, I would suggest bringing a pillow, a porn mag, and some Kleenex (because of the porn mag, of course). Basically I'm just trying to stay in this Universe for as long as possible... I'm awaiting that fateful day when I must man-up, and take a wild ride in my laundry basket. HOOORAY! __________________ "Nietzsche is dead." -God brevity is... wit

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09-09-2006, 07:49 PM	#24
DaDornta Techno-Neo-Shaman Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,610 Grams: 7,580.83 Groans: 5 Groaned at 28 Times in 8 Posts Thanks: 189 Thanked 202 Times in 106 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	And remember folks.... despite what they "teach us" ... FREEDOM IS FREE Remember the Declaration of Independance? "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..." What happened to the patriotic spirit of Americans? These people (our founding fathers) were much more akin to ourselves today than we realize. . .

09-09-2006, 11:56 PM	#26
DaDornta Techno-Neo-Shaman Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,610 Grams: 7,580.83 Groans: 5 Groaned at 28 Times in 8 Posts Thanks: 189 Thanked 202 Times in 106 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Plains... They don't use asbestos fire-proofing in kerosone-burning heaters...and they never suffer from "melting". NIST Data Disproves Collapse Theories Based on Fire WTC 7: A Short Computation You have your sources, I have mine. My sources don't try and attack the integrity of their opponents though, usually that's a sign of weakness and desperation to convince another individual.

09-10-2006, 12:38 AM	#28
DaDornta Techno-Neo-Shaman Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,610 Grams: 7,580.83 Groans: 5 Groaned at 28 Times in 8 Posts Thanks: 189 Thanked 202 Times in 106 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Like I said Ded, (lol) ive lived in AK my whole life...ive gone through to many survival classes to count. Getting my Eagle was probably one of the smartest things I could have done.

09-10-2006, 08:56 AM	#30
DaDornta Techno-Neo-Shaman Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,610 Grams: 7,580.83 Groans: 5 Groaned at 28 Times in 8 Posts Thanks: 189 Thanked 202 Times in 106 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I already do live in alternate universes. Each night when I go to bed I travel into a lucid dreaming state in which I can fly, fuck bitches all night...whatever. The sad thing is that no matter how many times I travel to these places in sleep--each dream seems to be another seperate and unique "reality". When I wakeup however, I am presented with the same reality in which I will soon become a slave to the power that "be". (notice im not saying NWO or some other wacko shit...just ppl that want to keep me from being peacefull, humble ME) I can't even remember where this post was going so i'll contiune after a much-needed munchie snack!

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