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Larmer

I think it should also be noted that torture doesn't work well. Often, a victim of torture will give his interrogators whatever they want; he just wants to get rid of the pain. False information is given in the hopes that it will buy more time away from torture.

 

teufelfisch

What is this, the Spanish Inquisition?

It sickens me to think that our "great nation" would resort to such primitive and violent measures as torture. It sickens me to think that there are people out there who actually support the use of torture. It sickens me, but it doesn't surprise me.

What are they going to do, tie his wrists behind his back and dislocate his shoulders?

Nothing, in my opinion, justifies torture.

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Mr.Mojorisin

it's survival of the fittest. who cares if the government looks like hypocrites. these people want to kill us, and are willing to kill themselves just to hurt us. torture the ****er until he squeals like a pig.

Thanks for the laugh man.


I just heard the US is trying to keep Mohammed in outside of America so they can take advantage of foreign lenience towards torture. I love democracy.

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jvthc

I've heard Isreal uses torture, and believe it's effective.

Frankly, I'd be ashamed of America if our government used torture. I'm ashamed of some of America's other autrocities from the past (deliberately spreading radioactive debris over American citizens, "faking" treatment of syphilis to see how long a human can survive, and more).

We can't allow our paranoia to get the best of us. Ask yourself this; how many terrorist attacks have succeeded since 9/11? Aren't they about as active as they were for the years previous? Is our perception of increased threat real, or reactionary?

I do think we should have become more active in our defense the first time the Twin Towers were bombed, so I don't disagree we must be active now. Torture, however, represents OUR fear, and I just don't believe Al Queada is any more capable now than 5 or ten years ago! If we continue another year and a half without another attack on American soil, what justification do we have ignoring our own humanity, resorting to acts that violate the laws ON our soil.

I don't think we have any. Glad to see a majority holding that view!

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ncj

damn, i did sound preety barbaric there. if torture is necessary, then i think we should use it. it probably wont be though. just my 2 cents.

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they probably wont have to torture him, theyll just drug him up with sodium penethol and stuff like that to make him talk...

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FlaToker

Torture is illegal however, the U.S. has a handly little loophole they are using. If you've noticed in the news Muhommed isin't going straight to the U.S. for trial, hes making a pitstop in Isreal (our ally). This is most likely where the torture will be taking place, who knows what those Israelies will do to him in interrogation rooms while we "aren't looking" we just care that they tell us what he said while we were out for coffee. This isin't morally right I agree however, put yourself in our government's shoes. You have a terrorist leader who is willing to die for his cause, he has vital information that could be useful in saving countless lives american and non-american (remember that club in Australia?) . This guy dosen't deserve rights to have rights you must be human, he dosen't meet the qualifications. Oh and this is all just my opinion I am very open minded to anything anyone has to say criticizing my little rant.

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Larmer

That is a very fine line you're walking there. Who determines whether a person is "human" or not? According to some people, our views on drugs, and other morally charged issues, cause us to drop below the level of human. Many more think the same of homosexuals. You start with one classification, and many more will follow.

The key problem with your reasoning is the word "could"; he could have information that would save lives, he could know the whereabouts of many other Al-Quada leaders. He could know **** all, then how do we rationalize what happened after we've already crossed the line?

Many American soldiers are willing to die for their country. Do they qualify as human? If you toss the Geneva Convention rules out the door, other values are bound to follow it.

FlaToker

However, this man was the criminal mastermind of 9/11 he is largely responsible for the deaths of those people, in other words it was his idea. He may still be human but a human that deserves his life? no. In our home land we kill people who murder others why should he be different? and back to my main point he was the criminal mastermind behind 9/11 he knows without a doubt where other key terrorist leaders, cells, and what their plans are. If this was a man who had only killed one person it might not be such a big deal but, he killed many innocent people without cause.

Mr.Mojorisin

he killed many innocent people without cause.

Ok, guys, Ive got a way to fix out boredom. First, we get some planes, then we get some pilots, oh boys this is a good plan, we'll stave off boredom for a little longer....

Give me a break. By torturing him, how are we any different than the people we are trying to oust from office?