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bytemee495

How does everyone feel about being forced to consent to a drug test in what I consider a "non necisary" job? (i.e. grocery store, retauraunt, sales clerk, etc.) I understand it if you were to work at a job such as Heavy machinary operator, airplane pilot, etc. But I feel testing is used unjustly to invade the privacy of others. I know there have been other polls on this in the past...but I was always taught the more something is polled, the more validity the results bear. So here it is!!....


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Trocisp

I think it's an invasion of privacy.

However, if you're working for someone else - it's their right to invade your privacy (in this manner). You have to be okay with that if you want to work for them.

pkster8235

I feel that it is an invasion of privacy. Here in Canada, there isn't that much drug testing unless you are becoming a cop, joining military, etc.
I curse the day that I have to take a drug test for employment.

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I don't like it, but I don't make the rules. If I smoked heavily for a while then quit for 20 days, and had to take a piss test, there is a likely chance I would fail (if I didn't know what to do ). Why should something I did in the past matter for a job? If I toke one night, then work the next day, weed isn't going to effect my work. It shouldn't matter unless your operating big machines, airplanes and the like - even then, if someone smoked 5 days prior to working then failed a test they would loose there job. However, I don't agree with working high...hell even that guy at McDonalds fucked up my order last night. What you do when you not working shouldn't matter, so long as it doesn't effect your ability to perform the way you always do.

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420godfather

...I agree on the invasion of privacy thing. I disagree with the rest of your post. It's never your employers right to invade your privacy. Outside of " high risk " jobs or " security sensitive " jobs , passing a drug test is usually so the employer can get a better rate on insurance premiums.

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Trocisp

If I own a company, or have people employed under me, I expect you to conform to my rules. Period. If you don't like it - get another job. Is it unfair? Yes. Is it silly? Yes. Does it effect your work ethic? Probably. Does it matter to me? Nope - I'm the boss, and that's how I roll.

bytemee495

^^ That seems rather hypocritical no? Idk. I agree that (hypothetically) you own this buisness...I want to work for you...(lets say this buisness is a landscaping buisness)...You want to drug test me. For what? If I smoked pot last night...but still arrived to the job on time and ready to go...Where does it become your buisness to tell me what I can or can't do outside of my employment with you? As long as it's not interfearing with my work or again as long as it's not a "high risk" or "security risk" type job...nobody should have a right to say I can't do something. What if pot was a legal substance. Completely legal, but regulated (like alcohal...can't drive high, min. age requirement, etc.)...Then drug testing would be non-issue. As long as I didn't come in all giggly, and wasn't doing my work...it would have ABSOLUTLY no bearing on whether or not I smoked last night. Just like it doesn't matter if I drank last night. So to me...it almost seems that someone who would agree with drug testing (for the jobs we've been discussing) , is also agreeing w/ the continued support of keeping marijuana and illegal illicit substance! (Are my arguments here lucid, fluid, and building on each other?...or are they flawed?...they look good to me! )

-Byetmee495

Trocisp

No, your arguments are perfectly valid. But I'm on the opinion that if there was an alcohol test, and you failed it - your employer should feel free to fire you for that too. It's a choice on behalf of the employer, should that be part of the employer-employee contract.

When you're hired somewhere, it's like signing a contract, if you agree to it, that's on you and them. It's a two way street.

Buzzby

It's a businessman's job to maximize profits. Insurance premiums are a major component of the cost of doing business. If he can get better insurance rates by not hiring people who use drugs, that would certainly be his prerogative. If he doesn't want to employ drug users, that's also his prerogative.

I don't like it, but I don't see anything immoral or unethical about it. It's just business.

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bytemee495

I agree that both parties agree to sign the contract, as well as to live up to it (which in my case I do...I have been sober since I was working for my current employer)...my point is...I don't think that they should have the right to require it. Just like...should an employer have the right to strip search you when you come into work? Just because they put it into a contract, and you sign it...doesn't make it right. We just have a difference of opinon...I just want to pinpoint where the difference is. lol. Anyways...I'm exhausted...But I am thoroughly enjoying this conversation! I'll check in, in the morning! I'll talk to ya'll soon!

-Bytemee495