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sterbo

I have a bit of a different slant on it.
I (and my brothers and sisters) were spanked and frankly I don't think it was helpful at all.

I'll interject here that the term "spanking" is pretty loose definition wise so I would define it as taking a kid over one's knee or standing with pants up or down and giving them a series of good hard whacks by hand or with some inanimate object.

My Dad only used his hand (and he had one big fucking hand as I remember).
Bottom line for me is that I was far more influenced in the right direction when he, while looking at me with that look of stern displeasure and disappointment, lectured me about what had gone down.

No spanking in this world held a candle to the pain I felt from his words and the look in his eyes...

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steakii

Well i dont care if people spank their kids as long as it is not done for every single thing they do wrong. If the kid did something huge like tear the house apart then i think its helpful, but other punishment should be tried 1st.

My father spanked me alot as a child and all it ever made me do was become deathly afraid of him, then once the fear went away i started to hate him.

Jake

It's one thing to believe that. It's probably backed up in a bunch of psycho-mumble-jumble.

It's quite different when you ask the government to get involved in the parental responsibility of disciplining their children...

A good parent can use spanking effectively. Whenever I got spanked, it was followed by a very long talk about what I did wrong, why it was wrong, and why I shouldn't do it again. Spanking was never used as anger-relief by my parents. I would hate to think of the effects on a child who has to deal with a parent spanking just to release his/her stress. But what can you do? Governments should not infringe the rights of the many because of the stupidity and carelessness of the few. Last time I checked, men were deemed responsible enough by our government to bear arms.

The thing about spanking is that no matter how old a child is, it can feel and interpret pain very well, and it will seek to avoid behaviors that lead to pain. Sometimes a child just can't grasp such heady topics as "this does not belong to you." Indeed, most children have egos so big that they think that the sun rises "to wake them up."

I remember my last spanking. During a pre-spank talk he told me that this would be the last time he spanked me. I was around 6 or 7. He told me that by not spanking me, I would be expected to not need the infliction of pain to understand why what I was wrong. I remember, as I felt my last spank, how proud I was even as I cried.

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pkster8235

Well, I'm not totally against spanking. I was spanked when I was a kid too, and I still love my parents. I just think that there are better ways to deal with a child when they are acting out, or being the little brats that most kids are.

I just feel that the line between spanking and physical abuse is too thin

There have been studies that suggest it leads to violence later in life, and that it can ruin a child's self esteem. They also say that a father figure spanking a female child would teach her to submit to males. (Experts: Spanking Harms Children, Especially Girls)
Anyways, when a mini-pkster comes into the world he/she won't be spanked.

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sterbo

If I might add to my two prior posts in this thread.
My son is in his early 20's now. I never once spanked him. He has turned out just fine; one of the most well adjusted, compassionate human beings I could ever wish to know.
Hey, just one family's story...

 

Vicki

Anyone notice how well behaved most of our parents/grandparents were? They had respect for others, and now look at things and people. This not spanking issue started a while back, and ever since people have become more corrupt. Maybe it's just me, but I see a big decline in human morals, and people not caring. Is that because these people weren't spanked when they did something terribly wrong? Who knows. All I do know is that people are letting their kids practically get away with murder and have little or no consequence to their actions.

And, what about kids that say they were spanked out of spite? Mad at a parent for something stupid, and decide to use this new law.

Will the gov't install camera's in our homes to inforce this law? Put a 5 year old on the stand to testify against their parent for spanking them? What's going to be the punishment for spanking? Lots of questions....these are rhetorical questions that I just wonder about myself.

This argument is mainly about it becoming illegal, though. It's another way for the government to control how we live our lives. Less and less like a democracy every day.

All this being said, I can't remember the last time my daughter was spanked for anything.

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Broliette

It's very much a personal issue. My mom spanked me to high heaven (shit, even to potty train me ) and according to her it didn't work.....not the potty training, the spanking. Anyway...

I was so willfull that it didn't matter how many spankings I got, I went right back to what I did. She said taking privilages away from me did a much better job than spanking.

I'm for spanking, if the kid needs it, spare the rod spoil the child. But not every kid responds to spanking so each situation needs to be dealt with as it's own. In short, it can be usefull IF needed.

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iamskfan

I say beat em!

Naaa, but I do think the government making laws like this is why the youth has gone wild.

parents have lost a lot of rights, and when cps gets involved the parent is ALWAYS guilty until proven innocent. It is a sad shame.

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sterbo

This decline, as you describe it is not at all likely due to some new wave "psycho-mumble-jumble"*.
I suspect if we look at the issue globally we'd find that corporal punishment is alive and well and the percentage of parents who "spare the rod" are few and far in between. If my surmise is correct then then we need to look elsewhere for such a decline. And that's assuming there even is one. Certainly that's debatable on it's own merit.

It seemed to me that that the legislation written by Kathleen Wolf and being brought to the State House for debate is not about legality at all. It is rather, just as she stated, “If all this (bill) did was get more parents thinking about how they discipline their child,” Kaufman said, “that would be success as far as I’m concerned.”

I'm sure she is well aware and I think most people would agree that there will never be a law passed specific to this subject.

I applaud her for the effort raise the volume on this subject as I believe the we humans need to find a way to move beyond that which has always plagued us,
violence as a solution to that which vexes us beyond measure.

I'd like to think that our time here is all about evolving...


*Jake

Vicki

It is a bill that could become law. That is why I said it that way. I agree that it is a good way to get parents to look at themselves. It may help the parents that are abusing their kids.

I also don't believe that spanking my child on her ass when she does a terrible thing is considered violence.